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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:24 pm    Post subject: Having cancer in Korea Reply with quote

If you know of any Korean or international cancer resources, cancer organizations or expat teachers that have had to deal with cancer and cancer treatments in Korea, please post them here or PM me if it's private information.

My friend has cancer and is going to stick it out in Korea. The person is being positive about it and looking for support or networks of any kind.

Thanks in advance for anyone with information.
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This isn't particularly helpful specifically to cancer, but finding a doctor who sees fewer than 100 patients a day (and therefore giving each one about 3 minutes) is challenging, but they ARE out there!

Some doctors are even known as being "kind to foreigners," and that makes a difference too.

Good luck
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about your friend. I'm in no position to offer any advice on cancer treatment but I'd imagine the first step in treatment involves a massive lifestyle change. Thus, getting out of toxic Korea is a prerequisite to staying alive.

If your friend has the means to seek treatment perhaps in North America I'd highly enourage it. Cancer is perceived as a immediate death-sentence here IMHO.

My condolences to your friend ...
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Traveling out of Korea, especially to N. America, is not an option at this point medically or financially.

The person has a great doctor and is not relying on hoodoo voodoo Korean medicine. The person is also healthy in all other regards and toxic Korea shouldn't be a problem (except for the air).
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billybrobby



Joined: 09 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CeleryMan wrote:
Cancer is perceived as a immediate death-sentence here IMHO.

My condolences to your friend ...


wha? this is an odd statement.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, with the huge outbreaks of cancer in recent years, Korean doctors are getting better at treating it.

CeleryMan wrote:
Sorry to hear about your friend. I'm in no position to offer any advice on cancer treatment but I'd imagine the first step in treatment involves a massive lifestyle change. Thus, getting out of toxic Korea is a prerequisite to staying alive.

If your friend has the means to seek treatment perhaps in North America I'd highly enourage it. Cancer is perceived as a immediate death-sentence here IMHO.

My condolences to your friend ...


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CeleryMan



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With all due respect, your correlation has no logic. Recurrent outbreaks of cancer has no impact on a Korean doctor's competency or lack thereof in terms of treatment. I'd argue that increase in cancer rates amongst Natives will only dangerously perpetuate the prevailing cookie-cutter approach to medicine.

I don't know enough about the current healthcare system in Korea however, like most other goods & services in this country you get what you pay for, I imagine this applies more heavily to medical services.

Being a doctor in this country is appears to be more an image and lifestyle. When it comes to treating the big "C" I'd seek care elsewhere.

Stay healthy folks!
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree. Look at Japan. They have one of the highest rates of cancer in the world. Also one of the highest recovery rates.

But then again, there are a lot of quacks.

My wife's uncle got diagnosed with stomach cancer about a year ago. he is in recovery now.
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:

My wife's uncle got diagnosed with stomach cancer about a year ago. he is in recovery now.


Cancer, it's death sentence, sorry I say this way, but.....
My father, my uncle, my cousin, they are all gone because C .
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The_Eyeball_Kid



Joined: 20 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Having cancer in Korea Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
If you know of any Korean or international cancer resources, cancer organizations or expat teachers that have had to deal with cancer and cancer treatments in Korea, please post them here or PM me if it's private information.

My friend has cancer and is going to stick it out in Korea. The person is being positive about it and looking for support or networks of any kind.

Thanks in advance for anyone with information.


A friend of mine was diagnosed with the first stages of cervical cancer, went back to the US, ate nothing but good food, led a healthy lifestyle, exercised, didn't have to put up with a shit job, shit food, pollution and stress and has amazed her doctors by being given the all-clear after three months. I would advise your friend to think very carefully about taking it on in Korea.

(Mind you, there's the additional consideration that she is now thousands of dollars in debt because she didn't have health insurance, but that's what you get for being American.)
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Traveling out of Korea, especially to N. America, is not an option at this point medically or financially.

The person has a great doctor and is not relying on hoodoo voodoo Korean medicine. The person is also healthy in all other regards and toxic Korea shouldn't be a problem (except for the air).


I hate to disapoint or upset you (thats not my intentions)...

but the over the many many years I have been in Korea...

once my students tell me their "mother" or "father" or "grandparent" has cancer... they usually die very very quickly here in Korea...

For some reason "Korea is NEW to treating cancer patients" and with all their technology and "traditional medicine" they are pretty much useless at treating it...

I would somehow get your friend back to the states or whatever country they can go to and get "REAL" cancer therapy....

basically - from what I have seen here - once a person has stomach, lung, breast cancer etc etc - there is not much hope left...

the treatment and cure here is NOT very good... if they really want help - then male every effort to get back to a country that has more expertise...
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far, no one has chimed in about resources or former cancer patients in Korea. From the way everyone makes it sound, there are no former cancer patients in Korea. I hope my friend doesn't read this thread one, at least not before they are cured.

I'll reiterate: My friend is NOT using Korean medicine, they are with an American-trained doctor who is NOT of Korean dissent. The methods they will use to treat the cancer are the same as if the patient was in the USA.
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endofthewor1d



Joined: 01 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

my brother in law had testicular cancer. unless your friend has the same, i don't think anything i can tell you about it would be very helpful. testicular cancer is pretty easy to treat, as far as cancers go. only a few months went by between him being diagnosed and him being perfectly healthy again.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
So far, no one has chimed in about resources or former cancer patients in Korea. From the way everyone makes it sound, there are no former cancer patients in Korea. I hope my friend doesn't read this thread one, at least not before they are cured.

I'll reiterate: My friend is NOT using Korean medicine, they are with an American-trained doctor who is NOT of Korean dissent. The methods they will use to treat the cancer are the same as if the patient was in the USA.


My husband's auntie had cancer and she is in full remission. She went to Samsung Hospital. My husband is Korean and so is his auntie.

So there, success story.
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Unposter



Joined: 04 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I would check out the web page or call one of the large hospitals such as Samsung or Severence. I am sure there is something.
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