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rickvaughn
Joined: 15 Jun 2007
Location: near Honorary Seoul Drive, Chicago
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
the old lady walked off with him - not one thank you.
two HS girls ...gave me a small bottle of cologne. |
The old lady didn't know how to say "thank you" in foreigner talk, I guess.
And the girls were making some subtle/not-so-subtle comment on smelly barbarians, I guess.
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| World Best Air Hub!!!! |
The finest airport in the world, according to new promos. Yes, and my azz has nary a hair on it.
Flexible response isn't exactly a Korean forte, is it?
When we arrived we had lots of luggage. No one lifted a finger to help us get it on the conveyor even though it weighed a ton. Neither did any of the security bother to help an older Asian woman with hers. That was my first clue that I made a mistake coming here. |
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spirit2110
Joined: 06 Sep 2007
Location: I am with Dan Druff. Nice guy, you should meet him.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
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| World Best Air Hub!!!! |
The finest airport in the world, according to new promos. Yes, and my azz has nary a hair on it.
Flexible response isn't exactly a Korean forte, is it?
When we arrived we had lots of luggage. No one lifted a finger to help us get it on the conveyor even though it weighed a ton. Neither did any of the security bother to help an older Asian woman with hers. That was my first clue that I made a mistake coming here. |
Really? I've been in many airports and I can't really think of a time when I had a lot of luggage and people were falling all over themselves to help me or anyone else for that matter. |
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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Every time I pass through a Chinese airport and attempt to put very heavy luggage on the conveyor belt for security checks I am always offered assistance by the monitors. Same when I went through Narita. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:04 pm Post subject: |
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| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
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| World Best Air Hub!!!! |
The finest airport in the world, according to new promos. Yes, and my azz has nary a hair on it.
Flexible response isn't exactly a Korean forte, is it?
When we arrived we had lots of luggage. No one lifted a finger to help us get it on the conveyor even though it weighed a ton. Neither did any of the security bother to help an older Asian woman with hers. That was my first clue that I made a mistake coming here. |
For the record: Koreans are NOT known for their generous helpful nature, especially towards foreigners. However, when I arrived with two huge heavy boxes, I struggled for a while before an ajoushi came over and reluctantly helped. He seemed to have this type of attitude, "weak waygookin woman can't handle her own problem."
When I left last time, I had a terrible stomach ache (from IBS) and to the point where I was doubled over crying. Koreans I got within an earshot of just laughed at me. They took pleasure in my suffering. It was quite obvious.
That airport is devoid of anything interesting. Many international airports have all sorts of interesting restuarants, artifacts, artwork and cultural shows. Incheon has nothing!
There are so many rude people there at the counters that I didn't even bother to try and be nice anymore. I just stood there waiting like a cat for them to show me their attitude and then I pounced. Immigration is the worst. The worst immigration I've ever had to deal with. Has anyone ever got a smile or a "welcome to Korea?" Seriously doubt that. It's to be EXPECTED in parts of the Middle East: Oman, UAE, Kuwait etc. SUPER nice and friendly immigration officials!!!!!!!!
I've been in and out of that Incheon airport at least 12 times in a just over one year. I've been in at least 20 different airports around the world in the past few years. So I do have something to compare. |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:17 pm Post subject: |
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| spirit2110 wrote: |
| stevemcgarrett wrote: |
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| World Best Air Hub!!!! |
The finest airport in the world, according to new promos. Yes, and my azz has nary a hair on it.
Flexible response isn't exactly a Korean forte, is it?
When we arrived we had lots of luggage. No one lifted a finger to help us get it on the conveyor even though it weighed a ton. Neither did any of the security bother to help an older Asian woman with hers. That was my first clue that I made a mistake coming here. |
Really? I've been in many airports and I can't really think of a time when I had a lot of luggage and people were falling all over themselves to help me or anyone else for that matter. |
I've been in a lot of airports. Most of the airports I've been in there are people willing to help and without an attitude problem. Same goes for train and bus stations. You can't expect a helping hand in Korea. Other places sure. But not Korea. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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From what I have seen of people in accidents etc here in Korea - they are just LEFT WHERE THEY FALL.... whilst everyone keeps walking past them...
Traffic accidents I have seen here... (pedestrians being hit by cars) - ARE LEFT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD WHERE THEY FALL.... and although the driver at fault - usually stop his/her car and phones for an ambulance.. Nobody goes over to the injured person and attempts any first-aid at all..... usually because of traffic it takes A LONG TIME for the paramedics to arrive... during that long wait the injured person is simply left in the middle of the road where they fell...
I still remember just 2 months ago - during summer... the bus I was on had to swerve around some guy - who was laying face down in the middle of the road on burning-HOT bitumen... whilst the driver of the car who had hit him - was casually smoking a cigarette over on the footpath whilst waiting for an ambulance....
NOBODY (and there were many people walking along the footpath) - decided to redirect traffic around the injured guy, put a coat or blanket under the injured guys face - (to keep it off the hot bitumen) or administer first-aid...
Koreans really couldn't care about other people dying in front of them...
And the nationality of the person really doesn't matter - however both the Chosun Ilbo and the Naver report - DO NOT SAY the person was American... ONLY MARMOTS HOLE translated the report as an "American"..
I guess you can't trust the news from MarMots Hole... |
I kind of agree that the nationality doesn't matter, what matters is how big of a screw up was committed by whomever blocked emergency response teams from doing their job.
On the discussion of accidents in Korea, I happened to hear one (I was within range to see it, but happened to be talking to my wife at the tiem) in the spring before my trip home and Y is spot on about them leaving the person right in the middle of the ****ing road. I happened to be close enough that I helped out a bit and made sure the cars didn't run over the poor guy.
Furthermore, since emergency response vehicles have no priority, someone very well could die waiting for one.
When I went home and was driving I plum forgot that you literally have to pull off the road in the US (at least in Oregon you do) if an emergency vehicle is coming through. It goes to show how much Korean cultural ways rub off on you. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Furthermore, since emergency response vehicles have no priority, someone very well could die waiting for one. |
That's what it looks like here, I'll grant; however, the Road Traffic Law begs to differ. I posted in a thread about driving license or traffic the section from the Driver License Manual which quotes the law. Top priority is for emergency vehicles. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Furthermore, since emergency response vehicles have no priority, someone very well could die waiting for one. |
That's what it looks like here, I'll grant; however, the Road Traffic Law begs to differ. I posted in a thread about driving license or traffic the section from the Driver License Manual which quotes the law. Top priority is for emergency vehicles. |
I didn't know that. So it's a cultural thing that people just don't give a damn. How sad! |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Furthermore, since emergency response vehicles have no priority, someone very well could die waiting for one. |
That's what it looks like here, I'll grant; however, the Road Traffic Law begs to differ. I posted in a thread about driving license or traffic the section from the Driver License Manual which quotes the law. Top priority is for emergency vehicles. |
I didn't know that. So it's a cultural thing that people just don't give a damn. How sad! |
Your profile says you've been a member since 2004. I'm assuming you've been in Korea for quite a few years now.
I figured out this (I don't give a damn about anyone but me) culture within my first month of landing in Korea. It's taken you three years to figure this out?!  |
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Yesterday
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Furthermore, since emergency response vehicles have no priority, someone very well could die waiting for one. |
That's what it looks like here, I'll grant; however, the Road Traffic Law begs to differ. I posted in a thread about driving license or traffic the section from the Driver License Manual which quotes the law. Top priority is for emergency vehicles. |
I didn't know that. So it's a cultural thing that people just don't give a damn. How sad! |
Your profile says you've been a member since 2004. I'm assuming you've been in Korea for quite a few years now.
I figured out this (I don't give a damn about anyone but me) culture within my first month of landing in Korea. It's taken you three years to figure this out?! |
No the poster probably also realised that "most Koreans are COLD AND don't give a damn" in his/her first few days here also"....
but he/she is just pointing it out to the apoligists and newbies out there.... |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 12:37 am Post subject: |
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| Yesterday wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Furthermore, since emergency response vehicles have no priority, someone very well could die waiting for one. |
That's what it looks like here, I'll grant; however, the Road Traffic Law begs to differ. I posted in a thread about driving license or traffic the section from the Driver License Manual which quotes the law. Top priority is for emergency vehicles. |
I didn't know that. So it's a cultural thing that people just don't give a damn. How sad! |
Your profile says you've been a member since 2004. I'm assuming you've been in Korea for quite a few years now.
I figured out this (I don't give a damn about anyone but me) culture within my first month of landing in Korea. It's taken you three years to figure this out?! |
No the poster probably also realised that "most Koreans are COLD AND don't give a damn" in his/her first few days here also"....
but he/she is just pointing it out to the apoligists and newbies out there.... |
You know, you're probably right. I just hate to see newbies get the wrong impression because they didn't know the sarcasim from this forum. On another note, you mentioned "COLD." Speaking of COLD, I knew quite a few equally COLD Canadians. I'm just wondering if the climates where they came from had anything to do with it. Is it a culture thing or can we blame it on the weather? |
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Yesterday
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:29 am Post subject: |
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| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Yesterday wrote: |
| Vicissitude wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| CentralCali wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| Furthermore, since emergency response vehicles have no priority, someone very well could die waiting for one. |
That's what it looks like here, I'll grant; however, the Road Traffic Law begs to differ. I posted in a thread about driving license or traffic the section from the Driver License Manual which quotes the law. Top priority is for emergency vehicles. |
I didn't know that. So it's a cultural thing that people just don't give a damn. How sad! |
Your profile says you've been a member since 2004. I'm assuming you've been in Korea for quite a few years now.
I figured out this (I don't give a damn about anyone but me) culture within my first month of landing in Korea. It's taken you three years to figure this out?! |
No the poster probably also realised that "most Koreans are COLD AND don't give a damn" in his/her first few days here also"....
but he/she is just pointing it out to the apoligists and newbies out there.... |
You know, you're probably right. I just hate to see newbies get the wrong impression because they didn't know the sarcasim from this forum. On another note, you mentioned "COLD." Speaking of COLD, I knew quite a few equally COLD Canadians. I'm just wondering if the climates where they came from had anything to do with it. Is it a culture thing or can we blame it on the weather? |
I would have to say cultural... MOST Canadians I have met in Seoul are both COLD and SELFISH.... they are trying to be to alike Americans... |
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sadsac
Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Much mention has been made in relation to emergency vehicles, I was in Busan on one of the many toll roads and an ambulance finally managed to squeeze through the traffic and lo and behold he then had to pay the toll before he could proceed. That was rather remarkable.  |
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Vicissitude
Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| Yesterday wrote: |
I would have to say cultural... MOST Canadians I have met in Seoul are both COLD and SELFISH.... they are trying to be to alike Americans... |
Why would most Canadians who are living in Seoul, South KOREA try to be like Americans? I was thinking all along they were just trying to just fit into Korean culture where being COLD and SELFISH is a birth rite. |
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