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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 2:51 am Post subject: Discrimination? 22 Foreign Professors at 23 Public Uni. |
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Does this clearly demonstrate discrimination in hiring foreigners at Korean public universities?
Only 22 Foreign Professors at 23 Public Universities
By Cho Ji-hyun, Korea Herald (October 15, 2007)
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2007/10/15/200710150006.asp
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Despite universities' publicized efforts towards "globalization," it was recently found that only 22 full-time foreign professors worked at Korea's 23 public universities in 2006, according to the Education Ministry's data.
The figure disclosed yesterday by Rep. Lee Sung-kwon, of the main opposition Grand National Party, showed that eight of the total of 23 state-owned universities employed a total of 22 foreign professors full-time last year. Among those schools, Seoul National employed eight foreign professors, and Kyungpook National University and Pukyong National University each had four foreign professors on their full-time staff. |
By Cho Ji-hyun, The Korea Herald (October 15, 2007)
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2007/10/15/200710150006.asp
Would this happen throughout the public university system in Canada or the United States? |
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Optimus Prime

Joined: 05 Jul 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:08 am Post subject: Re: Discrimination? 22 Foreign Professors at 23 Public Uni. |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
Would this happen throughout the public university system in Canada or the United States? |
Sure, but we call institutions that have ZERO international perspective "Community Colleges."
OOps, I just remembered, my local community college has several foreign staff, as I used to play football with them occasionally. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:10 am Post subject: Re: Discrimination? 22 Foreign Professors at 23 Public Uni. |
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| Optimus Prime wrote: |
| Sure, but we call institutions that have ZERO international perspective "Community Colleges." |
Why do you malign community colleges? An accredited institution, by definition, provides a sound education. At least, that's the way it works in the US. Over here, I'd doubt the accreditation process is far different from any other oversight action in Korea. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:29 am Post subject: Re: Discrimination? 22 Foreign Professors at 23 Public Uni. |
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| Optimus Prime wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
Would this happen throughout the public university system in Canada or the United States? |
Sure, but we call institutions that have ZERO international perspective "Community Colleges." |
Heck, my high school had more foreign teachers.
My French teacher was from Britain, my chemistry teacher was from Iran, and my math teacher was from Afghanistan. |
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htrain

Joined: 24 May 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: Re: Discrimination? 22 Foreign Professors at 23 Public Uni. |
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| huffdaddy wrote: |
| Optimus Prime wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
Would this happen throughout the public university system in Canada or the United States? |
Sure, but we call institutions that have ZERO international perspective "Community Colleges." |
Heck, my high school had more foreign teachers.
My French teacher was from Britain, my chemistry teacher was from Iran, and my math teacher was from Afghanistan. |
Same with my high school, we had a foreigner French teacher from Canada. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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Perhaps it is because of immigration rules and NOT universities' discriminatory policies.
E-1 Status (Professors)
A. The Object of Visa Issuance
This category applies to foreigners who, as qualified individuals specified by the Educational Law, wish to instruct special fields of study or engage in the guidance of research at junior colleges or higher educational institutions, or the institutions corresponding to such levels.
* In the case of a national or a public University, a foreigner is not permitted to be a full-time professor.
http://www.moj.go.kr/HP/ENG/eng_03/eng_306030.jsp |
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Demophobe

Joined: 17 May 2004
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 5:40 am Post subject: |
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In a related story...
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Korean students confused by university hiring policy
Students at Yoo-suk University are confused by the hiring practices of their administrators. Students have been receiving lectures in English for all subjects due to the lack of Korean spoken by the Great White staff. Universities, in order to satiate cries of discrimination in their hiring policy, have replaced all Korean professors with people from the Great White countries. Students are struggling with their new burden of having to speak fluent English in order to understand their lectures.
"I thought I was taking a class in Korea, where the professors would speak the language of the country and citizens they are teaching. Globalization sucks", said Kung-soon, a freshman in Korea University. She is not alone; mass demonstrations are planned all week as students are becoming increasingly dissatisfied with their Great White lectures.
"They are everywhere now. We have foreign janitors, parking lot attendants and even foreign foods in the cafeteria. I thought this was Korea and that we had our own language and culture; I thought we were able to employ our own citizens." The planned demonstrations are likely to have little effect on administrators who are expected to continue to flood the universities with unnecessary foreign staff. "We want to be seen as a fully developed nation, even if we have to act like retards to do it", says an administrator at a high-ranking university, speaking on terms of anonymity, fearing backlash if his name is used.
Korean professors have filed numerous lawsuits and held vigils, staging sit-ins around campuses across the country, but nobody cares. |
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moosehead

Joined: 05 May 2007
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Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
In a related story...
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Korean students confused by university hiring policy
Students at Yoo-suk University are confused by the hiring practices of their administrators. Students have been receiving lectures in English for all subjects due to the lack of Korean spoken by the Great White staff. Universities, in order to satiate cries of discrimination in their hiring policy, have replaced all Korean professors with people from the Great White countries. Students are struggling with their new burden of having to speak fluent English in order to understand their lectures.
"I thought I was taking a class in Korea, where the professors would speak the language of the country and citizens they are teaching. Globalization sucks", said Kung-soon, a freshman in Korea University. She is not alone; mass demonstrations are planned all week as students are becoming increasingly dissatisfied with their Great White lectures.
"They are everywhere now. We have foreign janitors, parking lot attendants and even foreign foods in the cafeteria. I thought this was Korea and that we had our own language and culture; I thought we were able to employ our own citizens." The planned demonstrations are likely to have little effect on administrators who are expected to continue to flood the universities with unnecessary foreign staff. "We want to be seen as a fully developed nation, even if we have to act like retards to do it", says an administrator at a high-ranking university, speaking on terms of anonymity, fearing backlash if his name is used.
Korean professors have filed numerous lawsuits and held vigils, staging sit-ins around campuses across the country, but nobody cares. |
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all the students at yoo suck can rest easy - as soon as those foreign teachers find out they won't get paid they'll leave and the korean profs will return -
oops - maybe they didn't get paid either?
guess they're screwed then! oh well.  |
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