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Yesterday
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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 Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: Re: Would like to speak to people who knew Christopher Paul |
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| Hi. My name is Brian Breuhaus, and I'm the national editor of the JoongAng Daily English language newspaper in Seoul. |
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| Hi, all. I'm planning a trip to China next month for about two weeks, and we have two young children (3 and under). Can anyone recommend a travel agent who would be knowledgeable on what would be good to do and what wouldn't? I've called several places, but with the language barriers, it's hard to get a good feel. Thanks so much in advance! |
( http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?p=1273613&highlight=#1273613 )
Just interested in knowing how the OP - a guy who is the "national editor of the JoongAng Daily English language newspaper in Seoul" - therefore one would presume speaks perfect Korean and English - DOES NOT KNOW how to find a good travel agent??? - especially if married to a Korean person??
Please let me know what you want the information about C.P.Neil for??
I may just have his resume, info, details and pic - in my emails from when he applied for previous teaching jobs... but I am sure not going to give them out to a "Korean journalist"... with all the bad and rubbish things written about foreigners here in Korea...
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: |
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| halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote: |
Bizarre "special focus" article on MBC.They had 2 western actors in a mock-up police station on.Gimps.
First guy saying "It's OK in Hoju to touch like that"
Second guy saying "There's lot of people involved in drugs",accompanied by lots of bags of what looked like black tea  Missus said it was meant to be pillipon.
The scaremongering/reactionism has started..... |
If that line in bold is alluding to what I think it is, no it's bloody not. You wouldn't be a teacher back home for long if you did touch a kid that way |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:08 am Post subject: |
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| halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote: |
Bizarre "special focus" article on MBC.They had 2 western actors in a mock-up police station on.Gimps.
First guy saying "It's OK in Hoju to touch like that"
Second guy saying "There's lot of people involved in drugs",accompanied by lots of bags of what looked like black tea Missus said it was meant to be pillipon.
The scaremongering/reactionism has started..... |
Seriously they broadcast that? Particularly the quote "It's OK in Hoju to touch like that"? |
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Yesterday
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote: |
Bizarre "special focus" article on MBC.They had 2 western actors in a mock-up police station on.Gimps.
First guy saying "It's OK in Hoju to touch like that"
Second guy saying "There's lot of people involved in drugs",accompanied by lots of bags of what looked like black tea Missus said it was meant to be pillipon.
The scaremongering/reactionism has started..... |
If that line in bold is alluding to what I think it is, no it's bloody not. You wouldn't be a teacher back home for long if you did touch a kid that way |
Hoju = Australia...
So korea is now calling Australians pedophiles (Its ok to touch like that?)
In Australia - you cannot touch a child - same as the USA...
GEEZ.... C.P.Neil was Canadian damnit.. MBC are obvious retards... |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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Well, remember last week we had that thread reminding us about the hagwon that posted its "10 reasons why we don't hire foreigners." It painted all of us as lazy, unqualified, AIDS-carrying pedophiles. This incident will only add fuel to the fire of hatred some fringe elements have.
Now, let me say that of course I'm disgusted by this, and of course it's horrible for the children involved, their parents, their friends, their classmates, and for the foreigners who knew the guy. But it's also important to acknowledge how damaging this all might turn out to be for the rest of us. Given the Korean media's record for running smear campaigns on foreigners, I would be extra cautious about talking to the media in a case like this. Even if a particular news organization says it's run by foreigners, or friendly to foreigners, or whatever. I for one wouldn't want my name, face, or words attached to a story like this, especially given the tendency to twist words, misquote, and fabricate stories. I also think it makes us look cheap and selfish to have to justify the other 99.8% of us, or whatever, who aren't doing improper things to our students. It ought to go without saying that most of us are law-abiding residents and professionals, and we shouldn't have to stoop to the low level of discourse that passes for journalism here. |
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ldh2222
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:22 am Post subject: |
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| Smee wrote: |
Well, remember last week we had that thread reminding us about the hagwon that posted its "10 reasons why we don't hire foreigners." It painted all of us as lazy, unqualified, AIDS-carrying pedophiles. This incident will only add fuel to the fire of hatred some fringe elements have.
Now, let me say that of course I'm disgusted by this, and of course it's horrible for the children involved, their parents, their friends, their classmates, and for the foreigners who knew the guy. But it's also important to acknowledge how damaging this all might turn out to be for the rest of us. Given the Korean media's record for running smear campaigns on foreigners, I would be extra cautious about talking to the media in a case like this. Even if a particular news organization says it's run by foreigners, or friendly to foreigners, or whatever. I for one wouldn't want my name, face, or words attached to a story like this, especially given the tendency to twist words, misquote, and fabricate stories. I also think it makes us look cheap and selfish to have to justify the other 99.8% of us, or whatever, who aren't doing improper things to our students. It ought to go without saying that most of us are law-abiding residents and professionals, and we shouldn't have to stoop to the low level of discourse that passes for journalism here. |
I wouldn't say most, as I've come into contact with more than a fair share of scummy and strange foreigners which naturally increases as the overall number that come to Korea increases..
With that being said, it is what it is... one bad apple can ruin the bunch, so to speak. It's a harsh reality, but a reality nonetheless.
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:25 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone got a quick link to that article a while back that mentioned Korean fisherman knocking up young teenagers in one of the Pacific Island nations? |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:26 am Post subject: |
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| I bet there are actual actors here who are hired to say garbage like that, with their identities protected. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:27 am Post subject: |
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| halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote: |
Bizarre "special focus" article on MBC.They had 2 western actors in a mock-up police station on.Gimps.
First guy saying "It's OK in Hoju to touch like that"
Second guy saying "There's lot of people involved in drugs",accompanied by lots of bags of what looked like black tea Missus said it was meant to be pillipon.
The scaremongering/reactionism has started..... |
Isn't that stuff crystal meth?
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&um=1&hl=en&q=methamphetamine+crystals&btnG=Search+Images |
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The Lemon
Joined: 11 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| ldh2222 wrote: |
| I wouldn't say most, as I've come into contact with more than a fair share of scummy and strange foreigners which naturally increases as the overall number that come to Korea increases. |
I agree with this. Five years in Korea was more than enough time for me to see that the waeguk-with-severe-issues problem is a big one. It's not just one bad apple.
And it doesn't hurt for Koreans to demand better screening of who comes in to teach their children. Yes, I know this particular guy may have passed police checks. I'm talking *in general*, no checks are made, no proper interview is done, no references are followed....
And these guys know it. In fact, he boasted of it on this very site. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:31 am Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Anyone got a quick link to that article a while back that mentioned Korean fisherman knocking up young teenagers in one of the Pacific Island nations? |
The old guy who killed two and probably killed many more? I'm sure an investigation is going on to determine how many people he did indeed kill. |
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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That be the one. Yaaar. Cheers. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| The Lemon wrote: |
| And it doesn't hurt for Koreans to demand better screening of who comes in to teach their children. |
The thing is, I thought the hammer would come down after that whack job (his name escapes me now) who claimed to have murdered Jon Benet Ramsey turned out to have worked here. But nothing much came of it. I think now everyone might clue in to the fact that lighting can indeed strike twice, and I won't be surprised, as other posters have mentioned in other threads, if a trip down to immigration is on the cards for all of us in the very near future. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:57 am Post subject: |
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| jaganath69 wrote: |
| Anyone got a quick link to that article a while back that mentioned Korean fisherman knocking up young teenagers in one of the Pacific Island nations? |
So to add a little fuel to the nation bashing...
�Ugly Koreans� Continue Sordid Antics in South Seas
After a fact-finding visit to the South Pacific island nation of Kiribati, the National Youth Commission revealed that Korean fishermen had not stopped buying sex from young girls there. It�s been two years since the commission paid a visit to Kiribati after child prostitution there grabbed international attention. During their latest trip, seven out of 24 female prostitutes the commission met were between 14 to 18 years of age. The Koreans did not want to use condoms, so three of them had had children and two were pregnant.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200702/200702260023.html
This is NO DIFFERENT that what "Christopher Paul Neil" is purported to have done.
Put it in perspective.... it is a bad thing and is NOT limited to any one nation.
It is too bad our Korean hosts won't see it that way. We should hear some more "I got beat up without cause last night" threads in the next week or so...
Skip the sensationalism, hunt the buggers down and make the punishments harsh enough that it is an actual deterrent and not a knee jerk reaction to the sensationalism.
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