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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Lyrt wrote: |
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I gave it a shot and it isn't easy. You would eventually get it through trial and error, or maybe it would be faster to create the program Hollywoodaction suggests. You wouldn't even need facial recognition software, just a different kind of tool than Photoshop currently provides. |
Absolutely, I just wanted to point out that your average PS user won�t be able to do it. You have to find the right marquee tool used, the exact pixels of the selected area and the precise angle used. That�s a lot of variables. It�s obviously not impossible since the German police made it possible. But it�s not fair to laugh at them and say they just used PS. They indeed used a complex technology. The thing is I now doubt paedophiles around the world will use that filter. |
Point taken. It'd take skill regardless. |
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Hyeon Een
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: |
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I never for a second thought he doesn't have victims in Korea. Why would he stop all of a sudden? Why would he take jobs teaching children?
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I think he probably doesn't have victims here. I strongly suspect that the victims in SE Asia were child prostitutes controlled by pimps rather than random children he met. He probably went to those specific countries because they have a reputation for that kind of prostitution being available. Korea doesn't have that kind of reputation any more than Canada does. If he has victims here then he perhaps is a random rapist and would have victims in Canada too.
I think that probably isn't the case, I suspect it was paid-for-prostitution in countries where he thought he could find it and get away with it. Whilst I don't doubt that there is child prostitution here in Korea, I bet it is only available to the Korean market.
He's probably creeped some kids out that he might have taught here, but I bet his criminal activity was only with prostituted children in SE Asia. (Otherwise he could have just done the same thing in Canada without the hassle of coming to Asia) |
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Tjames426
Joined: 06 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: |
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Fox news has a news report and picture about him. They broadcasted it.
Nothing new....just the same info. But it is getting some play in the USA.
Mentioned he taught in South Korea too. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| Lyrt wrote: |
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I gave it a shot and it isn't easy. You would eventually get it through trial and error, or maybe it would be faster to create the program Hollywoodaction suggests. You wouldn't even need facial recognition software, just a different kind of tool than Photoshop currently provides. |
Absolutely, I just wanted to point out that your average PS user won�t be able to do it. You have to find the right marquee tool used, the exact pixels of the selected area and the precise angle used. That�s a lot of variables. It�s obviously not impossible since the German police made it possible. But it�s not fair to laugh at them and say they just used PS. They indeed used a complex technology. The thing is I now doubt paedophiles around the world will use that filter. |
Well, complex technology...I've worked with 30 million dollar pieces of equipment, the most advanced in the world at that time. It was supposedly so complex to use that you needed a 9 month course to learn how to use it. My buddy and I had it figured out in 20 minutes. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:17 am Post subject: |
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| Lyrt wrote: |
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I gave it a shot and it isn't easy. You would eventually get it through trial and error, or maybe it would be faster to create the program Hollywoodaction suggests. You wouldn't even need facial recognition software, just a different kind of tool than Photoshop currently provides. |
Absolutely, I just wanted to point out that your average PS user won�t be able to do it. You have to find the right marquee tool used, the exact pixels of the selected area and the precise angle used. That�s a lot of variables. It�s obviously not impossible since the German police made it possible. But it�s not fair to laugh at them and say they just used PS. They indeed used a complex technology. The thing is I now doubt paedophiles around the world will use that filter. |
I was able to eventually get a photo that could identify the person. Unfortunately I used a face familiar to many on this board so I'll try again with a picture of someone else. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| Hyeon Een wrote: |
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I never for a second thought he doesn't have victims in Korea. Why would he stop all of a sudden? Why would he take jobs teaching children?
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I think he probably doesn't have victims here. I strongly suspect that the victims in SE Asia were child prostitutes controlled by pimps rather than random children he met. He probably went to those specific countries because they have a reputation for that kind of prostitution being available. Korea doesn't have that kind of reputation any more than Canada does. If he has victims here then he perhaps is a random rapist and would have victims in Canada too.
I think that probably isn't the case, I suspect it was paid-for-prostitution in countries where he thought he could find it and get away with it. Whilst I don't doubt that there is child prostitution here in Korea, I bet it is only available to the Korean market.
He's probably creeped some kids out that he might have taught here, but I bet his criminal activity was only with prostituted children in SE Asia. (Otherwise he could have just done the same thing in Canada without the hassle of coming to Asia) |
I'm sure rather than groom kids here, it was easy for him to vacation in those other countries. |
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ldh2222
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:25 am Post subject: |
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I never for a second thought he doesn't have victims in Korea. Why would he stop all of a sudden? Why would he take jobs teaching children?
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I think he probably doesn't have victims here. I strongly suspect that the victims in SE Asia were child prostitutes controlled by pimps rather than random children he met. He probably went to those specific countries because they have a reputation for that kind of prostitution being available. Korea doesn't have that kind of reputation any more than Canada does. If he has victims here then he perhaps is a random rapist and would have victims in Canada too.
I think that probably isn't the case, I suspect it was paid-for-prostitution in countries where he thought he could find it and get away with it. Whilst I don't doubt that there is child prostitution here in Korea, I bet it is only available to the Korean market.
He's probably creeped some kids out that he might have taught here, but I bet his criminal activity was only with prostituted children in SE Asia. (Otherwise he could have just done the same thing in Canada without the hassle of coming to Asia) |
Similarly speculating like you, just because he didn't take naked pictures etc. with kids here (unknown to the public) doesn't mean he didn't commit any highly immoral conduct such as groping etc. Sure, I can understand the difference between SE Asia & Korea, but it's not like a lightswitch.
Here: good.
There: bad.
Not to fuel the fire, but I think the age of 6 as the youngest victim is on everybody's mind. However, that ranged from the mid-teens as well. How many others do something inappropriate? This case is an extreme one so it's unfair to directly compare, but how many do an "innocent" grope or touch for that matter to... let's say a 15-year old middle school girl. Even sexually molesting/harassing a 23-year old univ. student is no different besides the obvious age factor. Can you understand why you're being monitored? Of course a major incident like this brings that to mind, and rightfully so!
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Hyeon Een
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:26 am Post subject: |
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I'm sure rather than groom kids here, it was easy for him to vacation in those other countries. |
Yes, agreed. |
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The_Eyeball_Kid
Joined: 20 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| I have to wonder: Who took the photos? |
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Hyeon Een
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| I have to wonder: Who took the photos? |
Most digital cameras (even back 4 years ago) have a timer setting.
Or maybe he was with a friend who lives in Thailand (and is perhaps currently crashing with!) who took the photos?
Or.. he offered the mamasan another $2 if she took photos?
We'll have to wait and see I guess. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:34 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I tried the untwist thing again. First I took a normal photo and twisted it without looking what degree it was, using the rectangle tool, but making sure I'd forget what shape it was. Not very scientific, I know. Then I tried to untwist it. If anyone can ID this person, I'll consider it a success.
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ldh2222
Joined: 12 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I tried the untwist thing again. First I took a normal photo and twisted it without looking what degree it was, using the rectangle tool, but making sure I'd forget what shape it was. Not very scientific, I know. Then I tried to untwist it. If anyone can ID this person, I'll consider it a success.
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Quite simple: C o l _ _ _ _ |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| ldh2222, whose sock are you? |
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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| ldh2222 wrote: |
| Hyeon Een wrote: |
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I never for a second thought he doesn't have victims in Korea. Why would he stop all of a sudden? Why would he take jobs teaching children?
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I think he probably doesn't have victims here. I strongly suspect that the victims in SE Asia were child prostitutes controlled by pimps rather than random children he met. He probably went to those specific countries because they have a reputation for that kind of prostitution being available. Korea doesn't have that kind of reputation any more than Canada does. If he has victims here then he perhaps is a random rapist and would have victims in Canada too.
I think that probably isn't the case, I suspect it was paid-for-prostitution in countries where he thought he could find it and get away with it. Whilst I don't doubt that there is child prostitution here in Korea, I bet it is only available to the Korean market.
He's probably creeped some kids out that he might have taught here, but I bet his criminal activity was only with prostituted children in SE Asia. (Otherwise he could have just done the same thing in Canada without the hassle of coming to Asia) |
Similarly speculating like you, just because he didn't take naked pictures etc. with kids here (unknown to the public) doesn't mean he didn't commit any highly immoral conduct such as groping etc. Sure, I can understand the difference between SE Asia & Korea, but it's not like a lightswitch.
Here: good.
There: bad.
Not to fuel the fire, but I think the age of 6 as the youngest victim is on everybody's mind. However, that ranged from the mid-teens as well. How many others do something inappropriate? This case is an extreme one so it's unfair to directly compare, but how many do an "innocent" grope or touch for that matter to... let's say a 15-year old middle school girl. Even sexually molesting/harassing a 23-year old univ. student is no different besides the obvious age factor. Can you understand why you're being monitored? Of course a major incident like this brings that to mind, and rightfully so! |
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What I meant (but it's too late for coherent thought in my neck of the woods).
I understand that going to South East Asia would be MUCH easier. But I also don't think actual child rape is the only thing that constitutes sexual assault.
Think of the way Korean students behave. They are constantly throwing themselves at foreign teachers. There's none of that 'you can't play with teachers' there is in the West. Nobody would give a lot of 'strange' behaviour a second thought in Korea. Children (I'm thinking younger children) in general do not understand the boundaries of decency, and would have trouble recognising when a teacher had crossed the line.
I can't imagine someone like this man could work in this kind of job and be completely 'normal' about it. I just don't believe it's possible. |
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xtchr
Joined: 23 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 5:45 am Post subject: |
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Okay, I tried the untwist thing again. First I took a normal photo and twisted it without looking what degree it was, using the rectangle tool, but making sure I'd forget what shape it was. Not very scientific, I know. Then I tried to untwist it. If anyone can ID this person, I'll consider it a success.
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erm.... Dean Martin? |
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