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NOISY NEW RESTAURANT SHATTERS NIGHTLY CALM
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:23 am    Post subject: NOISY NEW RESTAURANT SHATTERS NIGHTLY CALM Reply with quote

It is bad enough that at least seven or eight times every day small blue trucks with produce idle on the small road in front of our apartment building blaring their wares through faulty, tinny microphones. At least these wily vendors-on-wheels don't stay put, usually moving on after about 10 minutes.

But now the nightly peace is being disturbed by a new phenomenon. A restaurant has just opened a block away and across the avenue. Pink balloons form an arch over the entrance, gaudy strings of huge red and white lights flicker on and off and a band has been hired to play crap pop Korean music on huge sets of speakers from dusk until 11:30 p.m. To aggravate matters, a wannabe DJ fills the air with exhortations to try the food and thrives on hearing his own voice through an amplifier.

Even with both sets of balcony windows closed, you can hear the thump-thump of the overblown bass and of course his scratchy voice.

So I ask those of you who've been in Korea for awhile:

Shall this, too, pass?


Please tell me it's only a gig for the store's grand opening and not to be a regular feature of the evening here. Please tell me this is an aberration in large urban areas in Korea. Please tell me it will die a quick death. Evil or Very Mad

I know Asians have a high tolerance for noise pollution--and Koreans in particular for hamming it up on open mics imagining themselves to be rock stars--but there's only so much a man can take.

I'm tempted to call the police and lodge a complaint but something tells me that they'd do nothing, even though they have a precinct office not half a block away. Judging by their utter indifference to speeding motorists, I'd say the chances aren't good.

So if any of you can "enlighten" me on this quaint custom or how to combat it, I'd be very grateful.

I'm not going to wait for the Korean neighbors to complain because something tells me they'll just endure it. Then again, maybe it doesn't phase them. Several apartment blocks are situated even closer to these clowns.

Oh, and they are indeed clowns--dressed as clowns like some distorted pop rock version of Barnum and Bailey.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans can make as much noise as they like and nothing will happen. Get a few of your friends together and have a party, with some drinks and music (not very loud) wait a while, and the police will show up to stop the noise.
My suggestion, spread a rumour that the business in question belongs to a foreigner.
Business owners here think, if I annoy the locals, they'll come to my business, and guess what? They do.
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember:

I can't imagine that Koreans adhere to a double standard when it comes to disturbing the peace.

But, seriously, I'd like to sabotage their little act somehow. I suspect, however, that this is a temporary gig--can't imagine they'd pay these slobs to perform very long, right?
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing that drives me to murder and mayhem is when Korean housewives have no idea about public manners...and then laugh in front of my door or in the near vicinity(basically within earshot)

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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone laughing outside your door?

How about two small children who scream, sing and holler with joyful abandon right outside my door as they wait for the slow elevator to creep up to the 16th floor, every lovin' day, before my alarm goes off.

At first I found this very annoying. Then it started to become familiar, i.e., "Oh, it must be ** o'clock." Now it's starting to really grate again.

Sometimes when the older child is being disciplined, he gets shut out in the hallway, where he is left to weep and beg until I get up and slam my door (usually he gets let back in then.)

p.s. Yes, the speakers and dancers will go away soon.
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The_Eyeball_Kid



Joined: 20 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My next door neighbour gets up at 6am every morning, goes into his bathroom and blows his nose seven or eight times at such excessive volume that it wakes me up. Every morning. He gets even worse in winter.

Also, the opticians on the corner of my block blasts out K-Pop all day and evening through external speakers. Why? WHY?! Why blast out music to sell glasses?!
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

go to chungmuro pet street.

buy 11 pet rats.

go into the restaurant. have lunch. then go into the bathroom with the 11 pet rats in a box in your backpack.

free the rats.

go home.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea is all about double standards. Last spring, a bar/club in Hongdae called "Comfort Zone" had a dj party shut down to the "noise." In a bar district. Guess what race most of the party-goers were?
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kermo wrote:
Someone laughing outside your door?

How about two small children who scream, sing and holler with joyful abandon right outside my door as they wait for the slow elevator to creep up to the 16th floor, every lovin' day, before my alarm goes off.

At first I found this very annoying. Then it started to become familiar, i.e., "Oh, it must be ** o'clock." Now it's starting to really grate again.

Sometimes when the older child is being disciplined, he gets shut out in the hallway, where he is left to weep and beg until I get up and slam my door (usually he gets let back in then.)

p.s. Yes, the speakers and dancers will go away soon.


Not actually outside my door,but close enough

How many times do I have to smell pee from someone near me,or hear a 45 minute tantrum before I think this is my and everybody else's space.

Impromtu poll-who's seen elders allow their kids to pee into a receptacle?

5 times for me

1-Beer franchise joint in Sanggye X2(into a bottle on ground level)
2-Youido McDs(put up on the table,toilet was 10 m away)
3-Line 3-on my boots.S-hit happens,OK
4-Sul Jip(pee in the bottle sunny)
5-Yeoksam-mega expensive beef joint X2

Korean parents are awful.Corporal punishment comes from low contact hours and indifference.Whacks come from frustration.

I'm not a big advocate of saying young people are naturally good...cos'they're not.It's like putting a group of Eskimos in front of the Mona Lisa-what do you expect them to do?


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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Noise Reply with quote

I had a similar problem with noise last year. When I rang the police, they hung up on me because they couldn't speak any English. The concierge wasn't much help, & sided with the Korean tenants. I moved (gladly) / was evicted, for yelling at the upstairs neighbours to shut up. He complained to my Principal (& twisted the truth simultaneously).

In hindsight, I'd try getting a fairly imposing male Korean co-teacher from your school (Vice principal or director even better), to accompany you to the restaurants manager, & state your position in Korean. Point out a lot of kids & the school are depending on you to provide a quality service which the restaurant is disturbing. If they repeat it & ignore you, then go back again, & warn them politely that the police will be called next time.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

uberscheisse wrote:
go to chungmuro pet street.

buy 11 pet rats.

go into the restaurant. have lunch. then go into the bathroom with the 11 pet rats in a box in your backpack.

free the rats.

go home.


Yes!!!
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:
kermo wrote:
Someone laughing outside your door?

How about two small children who scream, sing and holler with joyful abandon right outside my door as they wait for the slow elevator to creep up to the 16th floor, every lovin' day, before my alarm goes off.

At first I found this very annoying. Then it started to become familiar, i.e., "Oh, it must be ** o'clock." Now it's starting to really grate again.

Sometimes when the older child is being disciplined, he gets shut out in the hallway, where he is left to weep and beg until I get up and slam my door (usually he gets let back in then.)

p.s. Yes, the speakers and dancers will go away soon.


Not actually outside my door,but close enough

How many times do I have to smell pee from someone near me,or hear a 45 minute tantrum before I think this is my and everybody else's space.

Impromtu poll-who's seen elders allow their kids to pee into a receptacle?

5 times for me

1-Beer franchise joint in Sanggye X2(into a bottle on ground level)
2-Youido McDs(put up on the table,toilet was 10 m away)
3-Line 3-on my boots.S-hit happens,OK
4-Sul Jip(pee in the bottle sunny)
5-Yeoksam-mega expensive beef joint X2

Korean parents are awful.Corporal punishment comes from low contact hours and indifference.Whacks come from frustration.

I'm not a big advocate of saying young people are naturally good...cos'they're not.It's like putting a group of Eskimos in front of the Mona Lisa-what do you expect them to do?


I've seen parents letting kids use the streets, sidewalks, subway stations, and parks as their toilet tens of times. I'm pretty sure I've seen kids relieving themselves in a few restaurants, too.
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Rigamarole



Joined: 29 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Korea is all about double standards. Last spring, a bar/club in Hongdae called "Comfort Zone" had a dj party shut down to the "noise." In a bar district. Guess what race most of the party-goers were?


Hyehwa, not Hondae.
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skindleshanks



Joined: 10 May 2004

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what you described--it's just a temporary opening event, and will be gone in a week or so.
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mole



Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III

PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

halfmanhalfbiscuit wrote:

Impromtu poll-who's seen elders allow their kids to pee into a receptacle?

5 times for me

1-Beer franchise joint in Sanggye X2(into a bottle on ground level)
2-Youido McDs(put up on the table,toilet was 10 m away)
3-Line 3-on my boots.S-hit happens,OK
4-Sul Jip(pee in the bottle sunny)
5-Yeoksam-mega expensive beef joint X2


Thanks for the reminder/laugh.
1-I watched a guy in hanbok get off a city bus, whip it out and pee right there at the bus stop.

2-Saw 3 old guys come out of a building, and around the corner to pee. No toilet inside??

Granted these incidences were in a small town, but those 3 came out of a government office building and did their business in full view of City Park, broad daylight.

3-At the Seoul Zoo, a young mother was helping her toddler whiz in a drainage ditch.
OK, but it was directly in front of the public restrooms.

I never cared that all the alleys reek of ojoom, I've left my share of contributions. At least we're TRYing to be discreet.

Oh, to be a little on-topic.. have you tried ear plugs or headphones?
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