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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
But my giddiness for hip-hop fades as I mature into fatherhood. I'm gradually passing the torch down to Rapzilla. She's fire.
Sparkles*_* |
Are you saying that your not into hip hop as much or music in general?? I've often wondered a similar thing.... will I be into hip hop when I'm older with kids?? I'll try and skool them on it, but hey kids dont listen to their parents opinions.... knowing my luck I'll have a kid thats into thrash metal or something like that |
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jurassic5
Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Location: PA
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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i don't listen to as much hip-hop at the moment since i'm in korea and don't have a CD player etc. i guess that's why i'm into the korean hip-hop scene at the moment.
but gotta say, old skool is definetly better than the new stuff.(except for Jurassic 5 and Hiero). |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 8:06 pm Post subject: |
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if you like J5 check out Ugly Duckling.... one of my favs....
been listening to Black Sheep and Chi Ali lately, some old skool throwbacks |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| komtengi wrote: |
| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
But my giddiness for hip-hop fades as I mature into fatherhood. I'm gradually passing the torch down to Rapzilla. She's fire.
Sparkles*_* |
Are you saying that your not into hip hop as much or music in general?? I've often wondered a similar thing.... will I be into hip hop when I'm older with kids?? I'll try and skool them on it, but hey kids dont listen to their parents opinions.... knowing my luck I'll have a kid thats into thrash metal or something like that |
I'm not that old yet; still 25 years young. But I can remember the good 'ole days when quality hip-hop was released by major record labels (nowadays there are only a handful of MCs/groups inked to the majors). Now, a lot of indy hip-hop is dope, but far too much of it is complete garbage, and if not that, it's mediocre -- which can be worse. There are a slew of MCs who, after getting dropped by their label, went on the indy circuit and released trash (of course, the same can be said for MCs still signed). I guess what really irks me is that, when the indy scene started to blow up, most of the music was decent. But these days there's so much garbage to sift through -- and being in Korea doesn'y help matters that much either; I don't listen to beats on the computer -- that I find I haven't got the damn time.
Honestly, the only cats I'm feeling these days are Def Jux, the Roots, and Outkast; and Outkast is pretty much defunct if you believe some of the recent articles about them -- that's depressing!
Y'know what group is getting mad rotation these days? The Smiths. No lie.
Edvard Von Sparkles*_* |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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| komtengi wrote: |
| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
But my giddiness for hip-hop fades as I mature into fatherhood. I'm gradually passing the torch down to Rapzilla. She's fire.
Sparkles*_* |
Are you saying that your not into hip hop as much or music in general?? I've often wondered a similar thing.... will I be into hip hop when I'm older with kids?? I'll try and skool them on it, but hey kids dont listen to their parents opinions.... knowing my luck I'll have a kid thats into thrash metal or something like that |
what he's saying is that his wife doesn't like it. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| I wanna meet itaewonho69! |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:47 am Post subject: |
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| wrong post... try the bling bling jiggest post |
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jurassic5
Joined: 02 Apr 2003
Location: PA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:27 am Post subject: |
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| komtengi wrote: |
if you like J5 check out Ugly Duckling.... one of my favs....
been listening to Black Sheep and Chi Ali lately, some old skool throwbacks |
yeah...i like ugly duckling. i forgot to add the roots to my list of newer groups (gotta represent PA  )
as for old school, since i don't have any CD's here, i just listen to 2pac and snoop from back in the day on bugsmusic. |
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komtengi
Joined: 30 Sep 2003
Location: Slummin it up in Haebangchon
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| jurassic5 wrote: |
| as for old school, since i don't have any CD's here, i just listen to 2pac and snoop from back in the day on bugsmusic. |
why dont you download some stuff off kaaza and burn it to disc? |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| gang ah jee wrote: |
| komtengi wrote: |
| Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote: |
But my giddiness for hip-hop fades as I mature into fatherhood. I'm gradually passing the torch down to Rapzilla. She's fire.
Sparkles*_* |
Are you saying that your not into hip hop as much or music in general?? I've often wondered a similar thing.... will I be into hip hop when I'm older with kids?? I'll try and skool them on it, but hey kids dont listen to their parents opinions.... knowing my luck I'll have a kid thats into thrash metal or something like that |
what he's saying is that his wife doesn't like it. |
Never that. Wifey actually likes hip-hop, and she plays it for the baby. I, mind you, have somewhat of a conscience, and prefer to play Mozart, Pet Sounds and other sorts of angst and anger-free music. I came home the other evening and she was bumping El-P:
"Don't make me bite your face/ 'cause it ain't like I like the taste/ it's more of a psychological thing/ my heart pacer never change/ but your cabbage can get rearranged...
Very creative music-wise, but I guess you can see where my objection lies (hey! that ryhmes. You wanna battle me?).
Something I didn't have time to get out yesterday was that, as much as I'll always have an affinity for hip-hop, it's hard to really get into the music when you've outgrown its subject matter. I can throw NWA's Straight Outta Compton on, and it's still a classic, but it's dated -- not by the music, but by my own adulthood. When I was in elementary school, the music was rebellious and alluring. Now, it's a parody of itself. I can't listen to the lyrics with a serious expression -- if I did I'd probably be psychotic. The groups I mentioned in my previous post, for the most part, make music that's accessible to an older audience as well (though they still know who their core demographic is). The ironic thing is that I'm 25: younger than most of the well-established artists who still rap about guns, drugs and hoes. And I don't want to be the aging dude, still stuck on music that is immeasurably immature (let 80's hair-metal be a warning to all ye thugs).
[Warning: tangent ahead. Proceed with caution]
What hip-hop is sorely lacking is introspection. And when it's used, it's rarely done effectively. When most "underground" artists try to rap as though they're intellectual and sensitive, nine times out of ten it comes across so corny it's embarrassing. Chalk that up to a generation raised on meaninglessness in music. And perhaps meaningless pop culture in general. I'm probably generalizing a little too much, but in hip-hop, lack of creativity (coinciding with the death of sampling), combined with a "talent pool" that -- as James Brown once said -- is talking loud and saying nothing, has made said talent pool significantly watered down. As a purist, I yearn for the days of '87 or '94; but if there is going to be a new rennaisance in hip-hop, I'm afraid it's far off.
Part of this post is me playing the the devil's advocate. There's an Aesop Rock track in which he states 'what are you saving?... honestly, promise me you're gonna shut the f*ck up and recognize what you're holdin' ain't really broken'. I try to keep that attitude for the most part and dismiss people lamenting the "death" of hip-hop. Hip-hop surely isn't dead, but the truth is that, with a few exceptions, hip-hop isn't groundbreaking anymore.
Now ask yourself homeboy, 'why is that?'
MC Sparkplug*_*
PS - be on the lookout for the new ENEMY CD entitled 'Asparagus Urine Stink, featuring yours truly, and with guest appearances by Big Gang Ah Baby Jeesus, denzini, and Shabba Ranks. Our first single, "Live at the BBQ (Chicken Hof)" should be hitting the airwaves very shortly. Pump it at the PC Bang, playas. |
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poet011822
Joined: 24 Oct 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 2:24 am Post subject: can you find the flow, and also flow? (PM me!) |
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haha, i just sent out a few emails lookin for hiphop here in seoul (i got here a month ago) and then found this thread...
T-sparkles..it's not all just hiphop, but if ur lookin for good isht, here are some of my recent faves: madlib's latest is DOPE, aceyalone, typical cats (aZn-pride  ), and rha goddess (she's also a poet) outta brooklyn are my top recs.
hey! does anyone out there PARTICIPATE in the 4 elements? ....not just watch, but does anyone flow/write, break, etc.? if so....PM me. let's talk!
peace,
M. |
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gang ah jee
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper
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| Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:30 am Post subject: Re: can you find the flow, and also flow? (PM me!) |
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| poet011822 wrote: |
| madlib's latest is DOPE. |
yes. |
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