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Joe Thanks



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
Zyzyfer wrote:
While it's fun to jump someone's bones for using "Corea". . .


It's fun to jump someone's bones in general, but I'm not sure that's what you meant. It might be just Newfie English, (if so, sorry!) but doesn't that phrase mean sex?


You are correct but "to jump ON someone's bones" is to pulverize into minced meat.

His point got across though.

Cheers,

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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
It's fun to jump someone's bones in general, but I'm not sure that's what you meant. It might be just Newfie English, (if so, sorry!) but doesn't that phrase mean sex?


Only if you're a perv. Perv.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya & jajude: Yeah i admit i do criticize the country a bit on here, its an outlet for negative feelings i guess. Maybe I should learn enough korean to express my opinions on the way things should be directly to Koreans themselves....
Drakoi: I don't disagree that Koreans do have happy and merry relationships in their home and family lives, and I've enjoyed this with my own korean friends. But the point you make is precisely what I dislike: the lack of warmth in their public face, their awkward and stunted work relationships/ treatment of anyone not in their immediate social circle... It just seems that way to me.
Obviously my lack of Korean doesn't help in the day-to-day scenario of chatting to new people. But it does seem that they are less relaxed and colder even to eachother in a variety of settings, than I or westerners can be in their home countries.....
Because of the variety of confusing and unusual factors associated with being a monolingual in their country, I guess its hard to form an accurate perspective.. It sounds like you may be married to a Korean, in which case you will have experienced a lot mor home and family life than me.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To Zyzyfer, Joe Thanks, and Peppermint:

jump someone's bones
Or: jump his/her bones, colloquial phrase meaning to engage in sexual intercourse with someone. See copulation for synonyms.

Quote: Rena (Prunella Gee) and Keogh (Michael Caine) in The Wilby Conspiracy (1974):

-- Rena: 'You have a pleasant face Keogh, but your bones are arranged all wrong.'
-- Keogh: 'And your bones are arranged all right, all over, and I'm about to jump all over those beautiful bones.'

http://216.58.107.91/FMPro?-db=SXLX_Dictionary.fp5&-layout=FirstPage&-format=bodies.htm&-RecID=45416&-Max=10&-Find

Euphemisms for Sexual Intercourse
Impale someone. Introduce Charlie. Invade someone. Jab someone. Jiggle someone. Join paunches. Juice someone. Jump on someone's bones. Lay some pipe. Lie feet up. Lift a leg on someone. Light the lamp. Look at the ceiling over a man's shoulder. Lose the match and pocket the stake. Lubricate someone. Make baskets. Make ends meet. Make feet for children's shoes.
http://usa.internations.net/contents/behindthescenes/euphemisms_sexywords.htm
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a beautiful dictionary entry, but I've got an entire metropolitan area that would understand me pretty fine.
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chi-chi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a Seoul thing, agreed. I've never been to a city that had more of a manic depressive vibe to it.
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Mr. Pink



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 4:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems to me a lot of Korean's mask their true feelings around people they don't know.

My students are always smiling, but I wonder if they are just masking the fact they feel miserable, tired, frustrated, or something else other than happy.

I also don't think it is a Seoul thing either. I have lived in Seoul for about 6 years now and have met more people who "appeared" happy than those who didn't. I say "appeared" as I believe a lot of Koreans mask what they really feel, so I can't be sure. However when you see Koreans with bad looks on their faces, the situation must be pretty grim for their "mask" to come off.
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HardyandTiny



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: Koreans are miserable! Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
Anyone agree? I mean i try my best to be a happy, warm and no problems person. But everyday, koreans are putting the damper on me.
It starts from the moment you walk into the office. The long faces, the receptionist who looks positively morbid, the sharp faced beaky supervisor, the boss and his unnaproachable air of god- like superiority. If there isn't some problem or silly politics happening, then they create some. Its a sad and stressful life. They all feel the need to keep up appearances- be it the best worker, or themost switched-on don't mess with me look.
but it extends to your average person on the street, or the shopkeepers, bus drivers, day to day people.
And then theres the poor oppressed waygook minority, generally wound up over some irritation or other. its all so oppressive!
I think a lot of people are missing the point...We only have one short life. Stop being stressed and sad! Look on the bright side! Lets all do our best for the kids and eachother, and enjoy the little things in life with this short time we have on earth!
Thank God for the happy kids!

I agree with you 100%.
It's the big difference..the FATALISM.
Nothing can go smooth.
To see it you have to do nothing more than turn on the TV and look at the soap operas, PLAYED THROUGH PRIME TIME HOURS.
Everyone has a problem and everyone is either fighting, screaming, crying or pouting.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a Korean Jerry Springer show?
Koreans are not capable of that yet.
That can't admit what is wrong in their society and YELL about IT, publicly at other Koreans!
Everything has a method.
Put on the headband-yell and then rush the police, the police do not crack our heads they just push back.
It's all a game
nothing is real here.
In the end nothing is accomplished.
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Yaya



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
Yaya & jajude: Yeah i admit i do criticize the country a bit on here, its an outlet for negative feelings i guess. Maybe I should learn enough korean to express my opinions on the way things should be directly to Koreans themselves....
Drakoi: I don't disagree that Koreans do have happy and merry relationships in their home and family lives, and I've enjoyed this with my own korean friends. But the point you make is precisely what I dislike: the lack of warmth in their public face, their awkward and stunted work relationships/ treatment of anyone not in their immediate social circle... It just seems that way to me.
Obviously my lack of Korean doesn't help in the day-to-day scenario of chatting to new people. But it does seem that they are less relaxed and colder even to eachother in a variety of settings, than I or westerners can be in their home countries.....
Because of the variety of confusing and unusual factors associated with being a monolingual in their country, I guess its hard to form an accurate perspective.. It sounds like you may be married to a Korean, in which case you will have experienced a lot mor home and family life than me.


Wow, a non-attacking post from rapier! That said, it seems a lot of your posts center on the same complaints over and over again. If you're not used to Korea by now, you may consider leaving. Seriously! If all you can do is constantly blast the people and the country, do yourself and Korea a huge favor and leave. I personally don't care much for LA, but I did choose to come here and so forth, so I'm making the best of it. There is a LOT to complain about LA and I did so in the beginning, but I'm making the best of the situation and focusing on the positive aspects.

And whether you wanna admit it or not, there are a LOT of positives to live in Korea - free housing, relatively stress-free job compared to one in the US, ability to save money, more lively social life, etc.
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Drakoi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

leeroy12 wrote:
Westerners, it seems, live (irresponsibly) for the moment - like "marrying for love", for example. Koreans, on the other hand, are far more sensible in planning for the future (like "marrying for money")


I was really talking more about religious doctrines, x-tianity vs. shamanism. One stresses life, the other the afterlife. And many Coreans are being infected with x-tianity so the line is blurring.

[qoute]Most cultures "go out and have premarital sex", the difference with my interpretation of western culture is that we are far more honest about it. Are you implying that Koreans have more pre-marital sex (and far more happily) than westerners?[/quote]

Perhaps I should specify americans, as there is a big difference between cornfed rednecks and oh, say, the french regarding sex. To my experience most cultures are more open about sex than the U.S.

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I presume that there is a point to spelling Korea "Corea" - please enlighten me Wink


The point is; that is how I spell Corea. maybe I'm spanish, hmm.. nope just lived in S. California for three years...
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Drakoi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Thanks wrote:

That makes you and ASSCLOWN.


Hey now, there's no need to compare me to Michael Bolton. You're treading on thin ice partner. Moderators! Do I have permission to launch a counterstrike?

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So, if you're going to start dishing out the cricket paddle of justice then be a man and bend over for us first and set the example. Once you've had your hiding the rest of us will line up - as FAIR is FAIR.

Cheers,


Are you BRITISH? Damn you british, when will you learn to speak proper English??!?!?!!!!!!!!! hmm????? Laughing

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Furthermore, I'd like to add that it is KOREA in English, NOT COREA and that you give into the Korena governments (North and South) INSANE, ASSENINE, COMPLETELY FALSE belief that Korea was given a "K" in English tansliteration under Japanese influence because "K" comes after "J" and Japan is really "Nippon" and thus comes after "K" or "C".


err. it's actually 'ilbon' here... you silly yong-guk.

Uhh no, I'm politely respecting another country's wish to be called what it wants. Who cares what reason. I see you have no manners, you inconsiderate worm.
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Drakoi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe Thanks wrote:


You're goddamned RIGHT it is OKAY since it's none of your goddamned business. It had NOTHING to do with how the country was run and says more about your closeted neocon bull-*beep* leanings than anything that you dig it up. HOW ABOUT BUSH AND THE GULF WAR - completely illegal, insane nd wil lset America back ino the dark ages.

At least Clinton won the useless popular vote as well as the electoral colelge. Bush won by silent coup.


*sigh* Rolling Eyes Reading comprehension. Sad. Just plain sad. Would anyone else here like to point out to this mentally challenged friend of ours that he's agreeing with my point? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:

Drakoi: I don't disagree that Koreans do have happy and merry relationships in their home and family lives, and I've enjoyed this with my own korean friends. But the point you make is precisely what I dislike: the lack of warmth in their public face, their awkward and stunted work relationships/ treatment of anyone not in their immediate social circle... It just seems that way to me.


awkward work relationships probably stem from a lack of trust due to you not sharing common roots or goals.

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Obviously my lack of Korean doesn't help in the day-to-day scenario of chatting to new people. But it does seem that they are less relaxed and colder even to eachother in a variety of settings, than I or westerners can be in their home countries.....


Oh, come on now, Prim and proper and cold behaviour is the standard in many countries, like britain, and has its place and time even in american settings. Walk around new york for a while, people won't be just indifferent to you, they'll be actively hostile.

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Because of the variety of confusing and unusual factors associated with being a monolingual in their country, I guess its hard to form an accurate perspective.. It sounds like you may be married to a Korean, in which case you will have experienced a lot mor home and family life than me.


Not married, just banging on a regular basis, oh wait, am I allowed to say 'banging'? Perspective is the key, maybe that's why Dave's tolerates the few dissenting views I post that don't get deleted.
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Drakoi



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Koreans are miserable! Reply with quote

HardyandTiny wrote:

I agree with you 100%.
It's the big difference..the FATALISM.
Nothing can go smooth.
To see it you have to do nothing more than turn on the TV and look at the soap operas, PLAYED THROUGH PRIME TIME HOURS.
Everyone has a problem and everyone is either fighting, screaming, crying or pouting.
Wouldn't it be wonderful to have a Korean Jerry Springer show?
Koreans are not capable of that yet.
That can't admit what is wrong in their society and YELL about IT, publicly at other Koreans!
Everything has a method.
Put on the headband-yell and then rush the police, the police do not crack our heads they just push back.
It's all a game
nothing is real here.
In the end nothing is accomplished.


That's a wonderful idea, let's judge a society by what they put on TV. So from Jerry springer and Judge judy i can safely assume ALL americans are dimwitted poor people who will get into fights at the mere sight of each other. That ALL americans are gun loving freaks who don't care or don't understand politics or diplomacy. Or...hmm... wait this seems to close to the truth to be used for sarcasm....

GENERATION GAP, PEOPLE! Rolling Eyes It's real.

Are you suggesting that the police should crack heads when they're being pushed? I think I've seen that somewhere, hmm... Oh yes it happens all the time in Israel. Protestors push, cops hit, people throw stones, cops shoot, Protestors fight, soldiers kill, terrorists bomb, the army bombs back. Sounds like a lovely situation. And thank you for suggesting it.[/sarcasm]
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Joe Thanks



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Drakoi"]
Joe Thanks wrote:

That makes you and ASSCLOWN.


Hey now, there's no need to compare me to Michael Bolton.



Cool

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So, if you're going to start dishing out the cricket paddle of justice then be a man and bend over for us first and set the example. Once you've had your hiding the rest of us will line up - as FAIR is FAIR.

Cheers,


Quote:
Are you BRITISH? Damn you british, when will you learn to speak proper English??!?!?!!!!!!!!! hmm????? Laughing




Exclamation Guess again. You're not good with the nationalities game


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Furthermore, I'd like to add that it is KOREA in English, NOT COREA and that you give into the Korena governments (North and South) INSANE, ASSENINE, COMPLETELY FALSE belief that Korea was given a "K" in English tansliteration under Japanese influence because "K" comes after "J" and Japan is really "Nippon" and thus comes after "K" or "C".


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err. it's actually 'ilbon' here... you silly yong-guk.



No crap, nationality-obssessed (and wrong guessing it) punter. I know it's "Il-bon" but I am USING THEIR OWN TONGUE (i. e. JAPANESE/NIHONGO) TO POINT OUT THE DIFFERENCE IN ENGLISH.

You do fit the bill: loose screw obsessed with nationalities who msut use the silly "C" in ENGLISH spelling of KOREA



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Uhh no, I'm politely respecting another country's wish to be called what it wants. Who cares what reason. I see you have no manners, you inconsiderate worm.



So in that case you would "politely respect" Nazi Germany back in the day when it exterinated jews because it was "what the country wanted."

You support wrong, racist, xenophoic, jngoistic hinking then you become a part of the problem.

We know where you stand (well, SINK).


Joe
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