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Mosley
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Big Bird:" [Mosley relies on ] smearing and sneering...."
Well ya got me there. Go back to my previous posts on this thread and you'll see that I a) took Spinoza to task for being of a certain age b) called him a racist c) accused him of being in a state of sexual frenzy when he posts.
Quite right, BB. That's disgraceful.
SPINOZA: I have to admit that when one claims admiration for a creature like Saddam, the "debate" is over. I'm not interested in "debating", only in censure. No apologies...I do not apologize for having principles. Someday we will both meet our maker(if you believe in one) and it won't be me having on a life record the act of praising Saddam. It'll be you. Doesn't bother you? Fine. Incidentally, if you want to meet your maker before your time, it would easily be done by repeating your "long-time admirer" bit in public...in front of a bunch of Kurds.
Who did Saddam admire? Uncle Joe. Go figure. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:49 am Post subject: |
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| I have to admit that when one claims admiration for a creature like Saddam, the "debate" is over. I'm not interested in "debating", only in censure. No apologies...I do not apologize for having principles. Someday we will both meet our maker(if you believe in one) and it won't be me having on a life record the act of praising Saddam. It'll be you. Doesn't bother you? Fine. Incidentally, if you want to meet your maker before your time, it would easily be done by repeating your "long-time admirer" bit in public...in front of a bunch of Kurds. |
Mosley, looking at both sides of the argument would be an idea here. But as you're not interested in debating then it would appear to be a dead end. But putting it down to principles, if somewhat misplaced, then continue to flame away.
I don't really see much difference between Saddam's killings and Bush's killings at the end of the day they are equal in my eyes. Killing, genocide is the same whichever and however you look at it. Bush, Putin, Saddam, Mugabe etc all do it. Who's to say one is more right than the other? You're a westerner so you'll naturally assume Bush is the in the right with what he is doing.
And as for the religious tirade:
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| ..."God is, or He is not." But to which side shall we incline? Reason can decide nothing here. There is an infinite chaos which separated us. A game is being played at the extremity of this infinite distance where heads or tails will turn up. What will you wager? According to reason, you can do neither the one thing nor the other; according to reason, you can defend neither of the propositions |
Using religion as a way to be more correct than someone else just doesn't wash. Please continue to believe but not to win an argument.
Maybe pop into Iraq yourself and say you're American and see if you meet your maker quicker than expected. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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I admire Saddam for what Kuros said in his previous reply and I quote: "The man did exert complete control over Iraq. That's a feat in itself".
Anyway, otherwise, I decided to stop giving a damn what you (Mosley) say when I reviewed your posting history and realized you are a canucklehead. It's an established fact that Canuckleheads are the least intelligent of the bipedal primates and my discussion with you in this thread certainly supports that. Continue your supper of partly decomposed organic material. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:40 am Post subject: |
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| I have to admit that when one claims admiration for a creature like Saddam, the "debate" is over. I'm not interested in "debating", only in censure. No apologies...I do not apologize for having principles. Someday we will both meet our maker(if you believe in one) and it won't be me having on a life record the act of praising Saddam. It'll be you. Doesn't bother you? Fine. Incidentally, if you want to meet your maker before your time, it would easily be done by repeating your "long-time admirer" bit in public...in front of a bunch of Kurds. |
Mosley, looking at both sides of the argument would be an idea here. But as you're not interested in debating then it would appear to be a dead end. But putting it down to principles, if somewhat misplaced, then continue to flame away.
I don't really see much difference between Saddam's killings and Bush's killings at the end of the day they are equal in my eyes. Killing, genocide is the same whichever and however you look at it. Bush, Putin, Saddam, Mugabe etc all do it. Who's to say one is more right than the other? You're a westerner so you'll naturally assume Bush is the in the right with what he is doing.
And as for the religious tirade:
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| ..."God is, or He is not." But to which side shall we incline? Reason can decide nothing here. There is an infinite chaos which separated us. A game is being played at the extremity of this infinite distance where heads or tails will turn up. What will you wager? According to reason, you can do neither the one thing nor the other; according to reason, you can defend neither of the propositions |
Using religion as a way to be more correct than someone else just doesn't wash. Please continue to believe but not to win an argument.
Maybe pop into Iraq yourself and say you're American and see if you meet your maker quicker than expected. |
Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaeda fight for a sinister cause.
There is nothing wrong in opposing them. |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:44 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaeda fight for a sinister cause. |
Stealing all of the comfy chairs? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: |
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| twg wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaeda fight for a sinister cause. |
Stealing all of the comfy chairs? |
They fight for the same things that the Klan fights for. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: |
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True question for this thread should be:
Leaving Iraq; What are the trade-offs?
This is one of things I worry about. If every other country wants to leave. Yes, UK and Australia, that would be you. Then wash their hands of the whole mess, and further blame the US. Hey fine you can do it and get away with it. We, however, don't have that luxary. As Colin Powell cited the pottery barn rule; we alone, the US, own this problem.
Point is, if we leave, violence and tribal killings will go up exponentially if we leave. That is my fear. there is good news now. Violence has been decreasing; we've got to capitilize on this decrease and try to do sommething and kickstart the economy. Should we leave now, all our work will be for naught. we will lose everything we worked for. I know it's frustrating to some that we are still in Iraq, but it has turned out to be a long term commitment. If it takes a 50 year, even military, commitment, then so be it.
What are the trade-offs for staying?
What are the trade-offs for leaving? |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:04 pm Post subject: |
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Trade offs for staying: Iraqi insurgents target US troops.
Trade offs for leaving: Iraqi insurgent target each other. |
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The_Conservative
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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I admire Saddam for what Kuros said in his previous reply and I quote: "The man did exert complete control over Iraq. That's a feat in itself".
Anyway, otherwise, I decided to stop giving a damn what you (Mosley) say when I reviewed your posting history and realized you are a canucklehead. It's an established fact that Canuckleheads are the least intelligent of the bipedal primates and my discussion with you in this thread certainly supports that. Continue your supper of partly decomposed organic material. |
While this may be true about Canuckleheads we're still a few steps above the Spinozas of this world on the evolutionary ladder. Don't worry though someday your descendants (should you have any) may advance to where we are now and become capable of rational speech and thought. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaeda fight for a sinister cause. |
and so do America. |
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Pluto
Joined: 19 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaeda fight for a sinister cause. |
and so do America. |
A fully liberated democracy or Taliban style authoritarian rule. Which one is more sinister?  |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Pluto wrote: |
| Dome Vans wrote: |
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| Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaeda fight for a sinister cause. |
and so do America. |
A fully liberated democracy or Taliban style authoritarian rule. Which one is more sinister? |
'Democracy' Haha, very good. Like it.
The eye roll, best just nip back up into my ivory tower.
Taliban, not that they are a direct threat to the States are pretty much transparent. You can see what they're doing. America, whatever they are doing in Iraq, we will never know, ergo no plan.
Better the devil you know, eh? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaeda fight for a sinister cause. |
and so do America. |
No the US isn't fighting to conquer the mideast it is fighting to make the Bathists , the Khomeni followers , and the Al Qaedists give up their war and to make sure that Iran can't control the gulf. In the past the US fought with Saddam's Iraq not so the US could conquer the gulf but to keep Saddam from being able to.
Now how is (was ) that a sinister cause? |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
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| Bathists , Khomeni followers and Al Qaeda fight for a sinister cause. |
and so do America. |
No the US isn't fighting to conquer the mideast it is fighting to make the Bathists , the Khomeni followers , and the Al Qaedists give up their war and to make sure that Iran can't control the gulf. In the past the US fought with Saddam's Iraq not so the US could conquer the gulf but to keep Saddam from being able to.
Now how is (was ) that a sinister cause? |
Why do America want to control the gulf? It has nothing to do with them. It's already been proved that America's war has actually made terrorism worse in the region. And for what cause? Not knowing for what cause is smells a little sinister to me. America's relationship with Israel is sinister. |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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| No the US isn't fighting to conquer the mideast it is fighting to make the Bathists , the Khomeni followers , and the Al Qaedists give up their war |
someone has to put you in a sitcom, because that is a great recurring catchphrase you've got going there. Of course you've said it somany times it lost all meaning, except for comedy purposes of course.
Will Project Thor..Rods From God make them give up their war?
find out next week...audience applause.. |
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