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loose_ends



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^I don't know what you have quoted and what you have actually written

from what I understand you are basically saying in 'might not' be a fake?

that could be the case.

again, very curious.
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loose_ends



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
anything else you are curious about?



Only when your head will eventually collapse in on itself


are you suggesting heads can collapse in on themselves?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

loose_ends wrote:
^I don't know what you have quoted and what you have actually written

from what I understand you are basically saying in 'might not' be a fake?

that could be the case.

again, very curious.




It is not a fake.

It is alll from this site. (I didn't write any of it)

http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin.html
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
anything else you are curious about?



Only when your head will eventually collapse in on itself


No, Cinammon Bun, it is you and the rest of the "official-ists" who have had your heads served up on a platter by loose ends. He has taken your flimsy arguments, opinions, or in the case of cbc, quotes from Albert Einstein, to the cleaners.

Honestly, how can you keep denying what is so bloody obvious? What is especially sad is when he presents something that has no explanation, like Guiliani knowing the building was coming down, or the evaporated beams in WTC7, or the 6 years and counting on the NIST report on WTC7, or the Cheney timeline, or the Pentagon on standdown, etc. etc. and when this is presented, the official-ists just put up a quote from Albert Einstein. You pointedly ignore the questions that have no explanation, which just go to show your state of denial. Meanwhile, loose ends just keeps taking you to school.

(cue Albert Einstein quote from cbclark)
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loose_ends



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
^I don't know what you have quoted and what you have actually written

from what I understand you are basically saying in 'might not' be a fake?

that could be the case.

again, very curious.




It is not a fake.

It is alll from this site. (I didn't write any of it)

http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin.html


here's the conclusion of that article

Overall, we can't say with 100% certainty that the tape is real, but equally, it isn't the obvious fake some would pretend. We're not alone in this view, either. .

http://www.911myths.com/html/bin_ladin.html

they don't say either way.

stop reading 911myth.bushscienceformoronicsheep.com

note:the above is not a personal attack on you, it is a personal attack on the website.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

screwloosechange will destroy all 9-11 conspiracy theories
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loose_ends



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
ED209 wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
anything else you are curious about?



Only when your head will eventually collapse in on itself


No, Cinammon Bun, it is you and the rest of the "official-ists" who have had your heads served up on a platter by loose ends. He has taken your flimsy arguments, opinions, or in the case of cbc, quotes from Albert Einstein, to the cleaners.

Honestly, how can you keep denying what is so bloody obvious? What is especially sad is when he presents something that has no explanation, like Guiliani knowing the building was coming down, or the evaporated beams in WTC7, or the 6 years and counting on the NIST report on WTC7, or the Cheney timeline, or the Pentagon on standdown, etc. etc. and when this is presented, the official-ists just put up a quote from Albert Einstein. You pointedly ignore the questions that have no explanation, which just go to show your state of denial. Meanwhile, loose ends just keeps taking you to school.

(cue Albert Einstein quote from cbclark)


the only thing they can rely on is '911myths.com'

unfortunetely for them, that website, including Popular Mechanics efforts, have been ripped a part and are full of logical fallacies that most deniers are too blind to see.

"Debunking 9/11 Debunking" ---> read it before you link to 'debunking 911' sites.....it will save you being torn to shreds by evidence and simple logic.

i'm waiting for that quote too....LOL
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loose_ends



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
screwloosechange will destroy all 9-11 conspiracy theories



try me
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loose_ends



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

another firefighter.

Louie Cacchioli, was one of the first firefighters to enter the South Tower as it burned. A 20-year veteran of the fire department, Cacchioli told People Weekly:

Quote:
I was taking firefighters up in the elevator to the 24th floor to get in position to evacuate workers. On the last trip up a bomb went off. We think there were bombs set in the building.

(Online petitions allow 9/11 skeptics to speak out, Daily Beacon, 2/6/02)

Notice the use of simple present: think

that would imply that it is a statement which was true in the past, present and will probobly be true in the future. look it up in your grammar books.

he did not say "I thought" or "it might have been" etc etc.

20-years as a firefighter. he knows what explosions are.

to deny this is to say the entire Fire department is lying.

videos to come soon.
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ED209



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
ED209 wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
anything else you are curious about?



Only when your head will eventually collapse in on itself


No, Cinammon Bun, it is you and the rest of the "official-ists" who have had your heads served up on a platter by loose ends. He has taken your flimsy arguments, opinions, or in the case of cbc, quotes from Albert Einstein, to the cleaners.

Honestly, how can you keep denying what is so bloody obvious?


What? That the natural prediction after a plane flies into a building and several floors go up in flame, is that it will/might/could collapse? That the rescue efforts were unprepared and had poor communication with each other? Or that loose_ends middle name is bell?
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
ED209 wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
anything else you are curious about?



Only when your head will eventually collapse in on itself


No, Cinammon Bun, it is you and the rest of the "official-ists" who have had your heads served up on a platter by loose ends. He has taken your flimsy arguments, opinions, or in the case of cbc, quotes from Albert Einstein, to the cleaners.

Honestly, how can you keep denying what is so bloody obvious?


What? That the natural prediction after a plane flies into a building and several floors go up in flame, is that it will/might/could collapse? That the rescue efforts were unprepared and had poor communication with each other? Or that loose_ends middle name is bell?


Funny. you just made my point about deniers avoiding the tough questions. I take it you believe that since a plane hit a building, and that in theory that could cause a building to collapse, and on 9/11 a building collapsed after being hit by a plane, therefore no other explanation needs to be considered?

Again, Cinammon Bun, give me a hypothesis about Guiliani knowing the tower was coming down. Give me a hypothesis about why the WTC7 beams were vaporized. Give me a hypothesis about why the pentagon stood down, an hour and a half after the first plane hit. Give me a hypothesis why 1/59 tapes of the pentagon have been released to the public. Give me a hypothesis why the NIST report has not been released on WTC7. Give me a hypothesis about why the 9/11 commission timeline of Cheney being in the bunker does not match with his own stated whereabouts that morning.

Take on the hard questions. Unless all you have is: A plane hit a building, so it's reasonable to assume it collapsed.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

loose_ends wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
yes, everyone is lying. the true conspiracy that day was by the 118 first-responders, by-standers, soccer moms, and reporters.


Are all of the videos lying? Where are the audible explosions. Don't you find that the least bit curious?


you want to hear audible explosions? fine. i'll post them around 4ish after work.


Yes, please do.

How about this video. Are they close enough for you? Do you hear any explosives going off?

http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/277852/9_11_wtc_explosion.swf

No explosions. No explosives. No controlled demolition. Controlled demolition theory doesn't get past square one.
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huffdaddy wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
huffdaddy wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
yes, everyone is lying. the true conspiracy that day was by the 118 first-responders, by-standers, soccer moms, and reporters.


Are all of the videos lying? Where are the audible explosions. Don't you find that the least bit curious?


you want to hear audible explosions? fine. i'll post them around 4ish after work.


Yes, please do.

How about this video. Are they close enough for you? Do you hear any explosives going off?

http://www.metacafe.com/fplayer/277852/9_11_wtc_explosion.swf

No explosions. No explosives. No controlled demolition. Controlled demolition theory doesn't get past square one.


As an aside, do you recall the witness in loose change who worked in one of the towers, who said the building was cleared the weekend before 9/11, and also who also stated there was construction going on for months on empty floors?

Any thoughts on this?
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ED209



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:
ED209 wrote:
blaseblasphemener wrote:
ED209 wrote:
loose_ends wrote:
anything else you are curious about?



Only when your head will eventually collapse in on itself


No, Cinammon Bun, it is you and the rest of the "official-ists" who have had your heads served up on a platter by loose ends. He has taken your flimsy arguments, opinions, or in the case of cbc, quotes from Albert Einstein, to the cleaners.

Honestly, how can you keep denying what is so bloody obvious?


What? That the natural prediction after a plane flies into a building and several floors go up in flame, is that it will/might/could collapse? That the rescue efforts were unprepared and had poor communication with each other? Or that loose_ends middle name is bell?


Funny. you just made my point about deniers avoiding the tough questions. I take it you believe that since a plane hit a building, and that in theory that could cause a building to collapse, and on 9/11 a building collapsed after being hit by a plane, therefore no other explanation needs to be considered?

Again, Cinammon Bun, give me a hypothesis about Guiliani knowing the tower was coming down. Give me a hypothesis about why the WTC7 beams were vaporized. Give me a hypothesis about why the pentagon stood down, an hour and a half after the first plane hit. Give me a hypothesis why 1/59 tapes of the pentagon have been released to the public. Give me a hypothesis why the NIST report has not been released on WTC7. Give me a hypothesis about why the 9/11 commission timeline of Cheney being in the bunker does not match with his own stated whereabouts that morning.

Take on the hard questions. Unless all you have is: A plane hit a building, so it's reasonable to assume it collapsed.


My buns do not taste of cinnamon nor Cinammon! Unless you have someone from the NYFD that says different?

Where are the audible explosions? Is that too tough to answer.
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huffdaddy



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blaseblasphemener wrote:

As an aside, do you recall the witness in loose change who worked in one of the towers, who said the building was cleared the weekend before 9/11, and also who also stated there was construction going on for months on empty floors?

Any thoughts on this?


Freaky. Empty floors and construction in a 100 story building? Did it happen to be on the floors that were struck by the planes? That's one place explosives would have had to been planted for the controlled demolition theory to work. That is, if there were any explosives. But there weren't. So it's largely irrelevant.
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