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rasta man
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 Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:06 pm Post subject: new alien reg cards |
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just got back from vacation to find a post card from imigration saying they are "planning to renew alien registration certificates to help you with cyber business transactions"
2 wierd things:
1) we just renewed our visas before we left in Jan and had the new expiry dates written on our old card. they didn't mention new cards
2) the postcard said "designated period of renewal (Feb 1 - May 31 2002)"
anybody have any info on this? |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2003 11:43 pm Post subject: |
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| I see you location is Kwangju and I too live in Kwangju. I just renewed my card two weeks ago, and they said nothing about this to me when I was there. Also we had new cards made last year for I got a notice to do so last winter. I should have a new card made for mine has the wrong address on it, but immigration has over looked this fact the last two years I have gone there for a new working visa. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Not to mention the part about "help[ing] you with cyber business transactions" is pure unadulterated horsesh*t.  |
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Arthur Fonzerelli
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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| dogbert wrote: |
| Not to mention the part about "help[ing] you with cyber business transactions" is pure unadulterated horsesh*t. |
Why? |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Fonz, what they REALLY want to do is keep track of how much money we send out of the country ... okay? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Arthur Fonzerelli wrote: |
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| Not to mention the part about "help[ing] you with cyber business transactions" is pure unadulterated horsesh*t. |
Why? |
Because they don't work.
I actually got a bit upset by this as the MOJ went out of its way to promise that making cyber transactions easily available to non-Korean citizens was a major impetus behind revamping the certificate of alien registration. In other words, I believed them.
It would have been a simple matter for the Korean government to have issued new numbers that contained a valid "check digit", such as numbers for citizens have, which the websites can recognize and validate the number. Unfortunately, the government declined to do this and simply issued new worthless (i.e., invalid) numbers.
I posted an inquiry about this (in Korean) on the immigration website and received a response that basically said: "The new numbers are valid; however, it is the responsibility of each website operator to download and install this special program that will recognize foreigners's numbers". Funny how they never mentioned that before.
So, as you can imagine, virtually no website owners did this -- hell, they probably didn't even know this program existed, much less cared about the one or two foreigners who wanted to register with their websites. Immigration's advice to me was to petition the website's owner to use this special program. Of course, there is next to no incentive for them to do so. And in any event, this is no different than simply e-mailing and asking them to register you....which you wouldn't have to do had the Korean government simply issued numbers that would work from the get-go.
So, I say, it is pure horsesh*t.
I suspect that you are a dongpo. If so, this might be why you were unaware that the new foreigners's numbers don't work. If you do have a dongpo card, I would be curious to know if you've ever had a similar problem. |
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Rand Al Thor
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Locked in an epic struggle
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I suspect that you are a dongpo. If so, this might be why you were unaware that the new foreigners's numbers don't work. If you do have a dongpo card, I would be curious to know if you've ever had a similar problem. |
what is a dongpo? |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2003 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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A "dongpo" is an ethnic Korean who is a citizen of a nation other than the Republic of Korea. It has substantially the same meaning as "kyopo". However, the Korean MOJ uses the term dongpo officially.
Many of us (i.e., persons who are not ethnic Koreans) are likely unaware that dongpo are not issued the same certificates of alien registration we are. They are issued their own style of cards and I suspect that their registration numbers may function like those issued Korean citizens.
Note that this is not related to the F-4 "kyopo visa". |
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Dan
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Sunny Glendale, CA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2003 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| dogbert knows his stuff. but from reading your message, i'd say its just a matter of time. and i'm sure most major websites will include the new immigrant numbers. if not exactly soon |
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