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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| [quote="loose_ends"can science fail in quantifying or qualifying nature such that nature works outside of the bounds of known science. |
Lots of what is in the natural world currently works outside of known science. Astronomy is a great example. There are always some nice theories on Saturn's ring systems or super novas and then a new observation casts it all into doubt.
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| thus, one could be inclined to use the title, 'nature beats science' or something to the effect; basically meaning, science didn't properly qualify or quantify a certain natural event. |
I think anyone researching antibiotics would say up front "there are a lot of undiscovered organisms and substances that have good antibiotic properties, we just have to find them. But it isn't easy and we never know where the next will come from."[/quote]
and we never know how long they will be effective before the bacteria gains resistence.
doesn't that have somethin to do with the reason why doctors in this country are sketched about giving more than a few days of anitbiotics at a time. |
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keane
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| loose_ends wrote: |
and we never know how long they will be effective before the bacteria gains resistence.
doesn't that have somethin to do with the reason why doctors in this country are sketched about giving more than a few days of anitbiotics at a time. |
Actually, the problem with antibiotics is that they are not taken long enough to kill all the bugs allowing the more resistant ones to go on and become even more resistant in later generations. Better to finish a cycle than not to. Better still to not use a cycle unless it really is needed. The danger there is waiting too long, of course, which scares people more than the thought of possibly creating super bugs in the future. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Lots of things found in nature kill bacteria (citric acid, fire, UV light,...). What's interesting here is that it could be used to produce very cheap topical antibiotics. |
Well, hand soap too. There's no problem with thing that kill bacteria before they enter the human body. Once they're in the human body, you have to start looking for ways to kill the bad bacteria and not kill your own cells. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:57 am Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Lots of things found in nature kill bacteria (citric acid, fire, UV light,...). What's interesting here is that it could be used to produce very cheap topical antibiotics. |
Well, hand soap too. There's no problem with thing that kill bacteria before they enter the human body. Once they're in the human body, you have to start looking for ways to kill the bad bacteria and not kill your own cells. |
You obviously don't know the meaning of the word 'topical'. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Hollywoodaction wrote: |
| Lots of things found in nature kill bacteria (citric acid, fire, UV light,...). What's interesting here is that it could be used to produce very cheap topical antibiotics. |
Well, hand soap too. There's no problem with thing that kill bacteria before they enter the human body. Once they're in the human body, you have to start looking for ways to kill the bad bacteria and not kill your own cells. |
You obviously don't know the meaning of the word 'topical'. |
http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary/Topical
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topical
(Science: pharmacology) Pertaining to a particular surface area, as a topical anti-infective applied to a certain area of the skin and affecting only the area to which it is applied. |
Since we're talking about antiboitics, a pharmacological definition is the assumed definition of topical, no? So to answer your question, yes, I'm afraid I do know a relevant definition of topical (and "the" is a poor use of an article as there are clearly many "meanings" of topical).
So what is your definition and how is it relevant to the topic of antibiotics?
There's a helluva lot of people dying in hospitals these days from MRSA etc, opening hospitals to big time lawsuits (not to mention putting the lives of hospital worker family members at risk... doctors have mothers in hospital too). If there was some cheap, effective magic bullet internal antibiotic like orange juice or whatever, I'm pretty darn sure they'd use it, versus letting patients die after simple surgical procedures.
Sounds reasonable? |
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