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[blaseblasphemener]

Check this out:

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

A Cartographers wet-dream.

[mindmetoo]

"This theory was sent to Albert Einstein, which answered to Hapgood in very enthusiastic terms."

Einstein was a geologist?

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/PiriRies.HTM

[blaseblasphemener]

[mindmetoo]

[blaseblasphemener]

[ernie]

is it possible that the map maker deduced that since the east coast of s. america and the west coast of africa fit together like a jigsaw puzzle, the southern continent would as well?

[mindmetoo]

1) That it depicts the northern coast of antartica.

As the uwgb shows, it's just the way SA was drawn.

[igotthisguitar]

Is that the Piri Reis Map?

The Piri Reis map is a famous pre-modern world map created by 16th century Ottoman-Turkish admiral and cartographer Piri Reis. The map shows part of the western coasts of Europe and North Africa with reasonable accuracy, and the coast of Brazil is also easily recognizable. Various Atlantic islands including the Azores and Canary Islands are depicted, as is the mythical island of Antillia.

The map is noteworthy for its depiction of a southern landmass that some controversially claim is evidence for early awareness of the existence of Antarctica.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piri_Reis_map

[yawarakaijin]

Very interesing article. Not sure why people get so people just straight to the extremes. One thinks its evidence of some ancient space aliens and the others dismiss it as an outright hoax or absurdity.

I also get confused as to all the talk regarding civilization this or civilization that. Is it absolutely imperative to achieve "civilization" before one goes off adventuring around the globe? Is it so unbelievable that a group of humans could build a boat and stock it with the supplies necessary for such a journey? For chrissakes, we have been to the MOON! but a group of people couldn't have possibly built a boat and gone across the ocean? I mean it isn't inconceivable is it? If it is, please demonstrate how. I think we don't give early humans enough credit. The pyramids, machu pichu no problem. A boat and some mathematics...nahhhh.

Either way, Man it would have been so cool to live in an age when you literally didn't know what was around the next corner. What a sense of adventure and excitement must have been instilled in people living in that era. I remember as a kid being so excited about exploring the woods outside my house. Would have been so cool to live in a time when that sense of wonder would never have subsided.

[blaseblasphemener]

[mindmetoo]

I have no doubt ancient people have done more than we currently give them credit for. But we don't give them credit based on a feeling. We give them credit based on peer reviewed evidence. Ancient maps being accurate. Sure. Ancient maps being accurate in far away places but botching your local country? Errr, you need a touch of skepticism. Ancient maps with satellite like accuracy? C'mon.

[wannago]

[yawarakaijin]

[wannago]

[Ya-ta Boy]

From Herodotus (p 253 of the Penguin Classics edition):

As for Libya [Africa], we know that it is washed on all sides by the sea except where it joins Asia, as was first demonstrated, so far as our knowledge goes, by the Egyptian king Neco, who, after calling off the construction of the canal between the Nile and the Arabian gulf, sent out a fleet manned by a Phoenician crew with orders to said round and return to Egypt and the Mediterranean by way of the Pillars of Hercules. The Phoenicians sailed from the Red Sea into the southern ocean, and every autumn put in where they were on the Libyan coast, sowed a patch of ground, and waited for next year's harvest. Then, having got in their grain, they put to sea again, and after two full years rounded the Pillars of Hercules in the course of the third, and returned to Egypt. These men made a statement which I do not myself believe, though others may, to the effect that as tehy sailed on a westerly course round teh southern end of Libya, they had the sun on their right--to northward of them. This is how Libya was first discovered to be surrounded by sea, and the next people to make a similar report were the Carthaginians; for Sataspes, son of Teaspes, the Achaemenian, though sent out for the purpose, took fright at the length and loneliness of the voyage and turned back. It was Sataspes' mother who sent him upon this venture; he had raped a daughter of Megabyzus' son Zopyrus, and was about to be impaled as a punishment by Xerxes, when his mother, who was a sister of Darius, begged him off by promising to inflict upon him a punishment even mroe severe; this was to force him to cimcumnavigate Libya, returning by way of the Arabian gulf. Xerxes agreed; and Sataspes, on his arrival in Egypt, procured a vessel and crew and sailed to the Straits of Gibraltar. Passing through the Straits, he doubled Cape Soloeis in Libya and continued on a southerly course for many months; but when he found that, far though he had sailed, there was always need to sail further yet, he put about and returned to Egypt. From Egypt he went to Xerxes' court, where he reported that at the most southerly point they had reached they found the coast occupied by small men, who wore clothes made from palm leaves. When they landed, the small men used to abandon their settlements and escape to the hills. Sataspes' men had done them no harm, beyond entering their villages and taking some of their cattle. As to his failure to complete the circumnavigation, Sataspes declared that the reason was that his ship was broughtto a standstill and was unable to make headway. Xerxes, however, refused to pardon him, and, on the ground that he had failed to accomplish his set task, exacted the original penalty and had him impaled. A eunuch in Sataspes' service, when he learned of his master's death, escaped to Samos with a great deal of money. It was all seized, however, by a certain Samian, whose name I willingly forget--though I know it well.