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Milkmen: Fathers Who Breastfeed
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
Location: Central Areola

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Milkmen: Fathers Who Breastfeed Reply with quote

In a recent discussion with jinju, I became intrigued with his views on motherhood and decided to inquire further.

Here is a brief insight into the fascinating and rather disturbing world of male breastfeeding.

Laura Shanley wrote:
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I knew these two wonderful guys, very dear friends of mine for years. A mutual acquaintance of ours was pregnant, unplanned, and did not want to do the whole "adoption thing" so when the guys approached her about taking the baby, they just proceeded as if it had been a planned surrogate pregnancy. The guys were adamant that the baby should get breastmilk. So when she was in her 7th month we bought a really good quality breastpump and Ian started pumping, every 2 hours during the day and once during the night. He was wonderful about it! He used an SNS (supplimental nursing system) after she was born, with donated milk from several friends who were nursing. He was making milk but not a full supply. By the time the baby was 12 weeks old he was making a full milk supply! He stayed at home with the baby (he was a massage therapist) and nursed her exclusively until she was 8 months old!! I don't think many people outside their intimate circle knew about it, I'm sure folks would have had a fit if they'd known...but I thought it was wonderful!


http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/miscarticles/milkmen.html
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bijjy



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow is that really possible?

BTW your usernote cracked me up.
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Bramble



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Good for him.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Schertzer can breastfeed
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mateomiguel



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want this to be true Sad.
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Bramble



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
I don't want this to be true Sad.


Why not? It's good news for the baby whose gut didn't get permanently damaged from drinking formula, and who doesn't face a higher risk of SIDS, diabetes and asthma.
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
I don't want this to be true Sad.


The reality of the matter is that this is true. It's as true for jinju as it is for Ian the breastfeeder in the story.

I don't want it to be true either Crying or Very sad
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have studies been done to find out if all men can do it?

Are there any cultures anywhere where men breastfeed regularly?
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Atavistic



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
mateomiguel wrote:
I don't want this to be true Sad.


Why not? It's good news for the baby whose gut didn't get permanently damaged from drinking formula, and who doesn't face a higher risk of SIDS, diabetes and asthma.


If male breast milk is the same as female breast milk. Wonder if studies have been done on that.
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Bramble



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How could they study it? There are no large populations to study.

I'm just glad this particular kid didn't have to drink formula. Human milk has to be better, even if it's not as good as the biological mom's would have been. An adoptive mother could have breastfed too, but often that doesn't work out. That�s what makes this story really impressive.
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Atavistic



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bramble wrote:
How could they study it? There are no large populations to study.

I'm just glad this particular kid didn't have to drink formula. Human milk has to be better, even if it's not as good as the biological mom's would have been. An adoptive mother could have breastfed too, but often that doesn't work out. That�s what makes this story really impressive.


Yes, I know there's no large study. It was my way of pointing out that this is nearly as unnatural as humans drinking cow's breast milk.
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Yesterday



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
Yes, I know there's no large study. It was my way of pointing out that this is nearly as unnatural as humans drinking cow's breast milk.


Humans do drink cow's breast milk....

and goats etc...

Yes - males can produce milk and breastfeed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_lactation

http://www.nyinquirer.com/nyinquirer/2006/08/male_breastfeed.html

http://www.babycenter.com/400_can-men-breastfeed_505541_1000.bc

http://www.narth.com/docs/brfeed.html
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Atavistic



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
Yes, I know there's no large study. It was my way of pointing out that this is nearly as unnatural as humans drinking cow's breast milk.


Humans do drink cow's breast milk....

and goats etc...


No shit, Sherlock. And do you really think that it's natural?

Oh, that's right! I often see cows drinking cat's breast milk and dogs suckling squirrels.

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Yes - males can produce milk and breastfeed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_lactation

http://www.nyinquirer.com/nyinquirer/2006/08/male_breastfeed.html

http://www.babycenter.com/400_can-men-breastfeed_505541_1000.bc

http://www.narth.com/docs/brfeed.html


I was not arguing that they can't.
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Yesterday



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
Yesterday wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
Yes, I know there's no large study. It was my way of pointing out that this is nearly as unnatural as humans drinking cow's breast milk.


Humans do drink cow's breast milk....

and goats etc...


No *beep*, Sherlock. And do you really think that it's natural?

Oh, that's right! I often see cows drinking cat's breast milk and dogs suckling squirrels.

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Yes - males can produce milk and breastfeed...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male_lactation

http://www.nyinquirer.com/nyinquirer/2006/08/male_breastfeed.html

http://www.babycenter.com/400_can-men-breastfeed_505541_1000.bc

http://www.narth.com/docs/brfeed.html


I was not arguing that they can't.


W3nker... I was not arguing that drinking cows milk is natural - but many humans do...

NOR is giving soy-milk-formula to infants natural either - and you never said it was....

You never argued that males can't breastfeed....

and I never argued that males breastfeeding was a good idea...
(obviously males have much more testosterone running through their bloodstream than females - and this would raise the levels much higher in the males milk)....

now your'e arguing that I'm sherlock and I'm arguing that your a w3nker...
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Atavistic



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yesterday wrote:

now your'e arguing that I'm sherlock and I'm arguing that your a w3nker...


And so Dave's World turns...cue music.
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