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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Ritual execution of one of their own.
Traumatic day-light plain-view killing of the king.
NWO coup d'etat  |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
Who is 'they'?
I (mildly) resent your implication that the people on the Warren Commission didn't do their job properly. |
This is where this guy is coming from, folks. He believes in the Warren Commission and claims he is "sane"!
Delusional is not sane, Yata. |
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Funkdafied
Joined: 04 Nov 2007
Location: In Da House
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Trusting the Warren Comission on this is nuts. The evidence that this was not Oswald as a solo player is overwhelming. The reasons also pretty clear. JFK was interested in changing society in a major way, making it more transparent and eqalitarian. Many high level power players stood a lot to lose from the proposed shake up. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: |
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| Funkdafied wrote: |
| Trusting the Warren Comission on this is nuts. The evidence that this was not Oswald as a solo player is overwhelming. The reasons also pretty clear. JFK was interested in changing society in a major way, making it more transparent and eqalitarian. Many high level power players stood a lot to lose from the proposed shake up. |
November 12, 2003
The Warren Commission Revisited
Forty Years of Lies
By JOHN CHUCKMAN
"If, as we are told, Oswald was the lone assassin, where is the issue of national security?"
Bertrand Russell
Bertrand Russell's penetrating question, one of sixteen he asked at the time of the Warren Commission Report, remains unanswered after forty years. That should trouble Americans, but then again there are many things around national secrecy today that should trouble Americans.
The most timely lesson to be taken from the fortieth anniversary of President Kennedy's assassination concerns secrecy and the meaning of democracy in the world's most powerful nation. Perhaps no event better demonstrates the existence of two governments in the United States, the one people elect and another, often far more influential, as capable of imposing false history about large events as the fabled Ministry of Truth.
Since the time of the Warren Commission we have had the investigation of the House Select Committee and, in the last decade, the release of truckloads of previously-secret documents.
These documents were suppressed originally in the name of national security, but the fact is, despite their release, much of their content is heavily blacked out, and dedicated researchers know many documents remain unreleased, particularly documents from the CIA and military intelligence. Would any reasonable person conclude anything other than that those documents are likely the most informative and sensational?
Was it ever reasonable to believe that material of that nature would be included in document releases? Just a few years ago, records of some of the CIA's early Cold War activities, due for mandated release, were suddenly said to have "disappeared," and that declaration was pretty much the end of the story for a press regularly puffing itself as the fourth estate of American society. You do not have to believe in wild plots to recognize here the key to the Warren Commission's shabby job of investigation. As it was, several members of the Commission expressed private doubts about the main finding of Oswald as lone assassin.
The rest of the article:
http://tinyurl.com/yqyrp9 |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The Power Control Group faced up to the Ted Kennedy and Kennedy family problem very early. |
And just who might this Power Control Group be, pray tell. |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Holy shit. 
Any of you guys ever see the movie A Beautiful Mind?
Ether he's faking it, or... |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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MoS,
We're usually on the same page on this issue, but I must admit this piece of logic escapes me:
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Any of you guys ever see the movie A Beautiful Mind?
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Could you elaborate? |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy,
A symptom of clinical schizophrenia is an obsession with weaving minute and dissimilar details into complicated patterns. In the movie, and in real life, John Nash believes he has been tasked by the Department of Defense to uncover a conspiracy by the Soviet Union to smuggle nuclear weapons into the US. He attempts to find patterns in newspapers and other publications that in his mind, contain encoded messages.
This is a series of drawings of a cat made in the 1960s by someone with progressive schizophrenia, the first one top left, and the last one that was drawn is bottom right. Notice that as the disease progressed, the sketches became more so intricate and complicated as to be unrecognizable.
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The Power Control Group faced up to the Ted Kennedy and Kennedy family problem very early. |
And just who might this Power Control Group be, pray tell. |
From: The Design of the Warren Report...
to Reveal Conspiracy.
What I did not know when I wrote that article in 1964 was that the Warren Commission's single assassin conclusion was designed to fall to pieces, was designed to be incredible, was designed to self destruct.
To my friend, Professor Thomas Katen, I owe the brilliant insight which he has characterized as the "transparent conspiracy". Tom propounded the view that the Warren Report was not a cover-up, but rather was a transparent conspiracy, the purpose of which was to reveal the assassination to be a conspiracy although the Report seemed to have been endeavoring to prove a single assassin killing.
Tom's concept was that the Warren Commission covered up the conspiracy in such a gross and clumsy way so as to reveal intentionally the existence of conspiracy. Make no mistake about it, the Warren Commission and its staff were made up of very able men. If these men had wanted to cover up the conspiracy more effectively they could have done so. As we shall see, the cover-up was accomplished in such a self-defeating fashion that one would have to suspend common sense and respect for evidence in order to accept the Report's conclusions.
Through the prism of the transparent conspiracy concept, let us look briefly at some of the evidence considered by the Warren Commission. Through this analysis let us make our own assessment of whether the Warren Report was ever meant to result in a reasonable inference of a single assassin killing.
The Presidential Limousine
The Warren Report tells us that the presidential limousine, onto and into which bullets rained that killed the President, wounded Governor Connally, and damaged the vehicle, was removed with the Presidential party from Dallas on November 22. The removal of that limousine, with its vital evidence of bullet strikes, from Texas, the jurisdiction of the crime, was an illegal act. The Federal government chose to show the world that it was from the beginning with respect to this assassination engaging in patent illegality.
From:
The Design of the Warren Report,
to Fall to Pieces
by Vincent J. Salandria
http://spot.acorn.net/jfkplace/09/fp.back_issues/28th_Issue/wr_design.html |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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MoS,
Thanks for The Beautiful Mind explanation. It cleared up that mystery.
I enjoyed seeing the cat pictures. I used to use them in Psych class to show the kids what schizophrenia 'looked' like. We all agreed that temporary schizo would be kinda fun.
reg,
Your post does not explain who the Power Control Group is. It just says something silly about the Warren Commission deliberately writing a report that would be seen as phoney, thus revealing a conspiracy while denying a conspiracy existed. That does not tell me WHO the PCG is.
Please connect the dots for me. |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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MoS,
Thanks for The Beautiful Mind explanation. It cleared up that mystery.
I enjoyed seeing the cat pictures. I used to use them in Psych class to show the kids what schizophrenia 'looked' like. We all agreed that temporary schizo would be kinda fun.
reg,
Your post does not explain who the Power Control Group is. It just says something silly about the Warren Commission deliberately writing a report that would be seen as phoney, thus revealing a conspiracy while denying a conspiracy existed. That does not tell me WHO the PCG is.
Please connect the dots for me. |
I would like everyone to make note where Yata and MOS have decided to "discuss" these matters. The arrogance and self appointed position that they put themselves in shows how these people feel about themselves; and where they put the rest of the world. Especially those who dare to go beyond that "2 or 3 %" margin of error that they think this world operates on.
Listen to this: "I used to use them in Psych class to show the kids..."
What he is doing here is again, demonstrating to the world that he is the sane one. So sane, in fact, he can even teach others about the subject, while many of us are insane schizophrenic, anti establishment sociopaths, who hate the government.
One of my favorite psych classes was behavior modification. As smart as Yata thinks he is, he has failed to figure out that it is his behavior that brings me back on this board with his snipes in unrelated threads, and his stupid remarks on the JFK threads.
Go back to psych 101 where you belong, Yata. But thanks for the impetus for this round. See you on the next one.
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aarontendo
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
Location: Daegu-ish
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| Posted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya know, I don't mean to try to make things personal. but IGTG, I'm a bit curious. Walk us through your average day. I gotta wonder where and how ya try to find this stuff =) |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| regicide wrote: |
| What he is doing here is again, demonstrating to the world that he is the sane one. |
Ya-ta Boy, I'd have to agree with this. ** frowning, turning head and wagging finger ** You're showing the world that your the sane one again. Naughty boy!  |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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| What he is doing here is again, demonstrating to the world that he is the sane one. |
The contrast is glaring, isn't it? |
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regicide
Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States
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| Posted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| What he is doing here is again, demonstrating to the world that he is the sane one. |
The contrast is glaring, isn't it? |
I would like everyone to make note where Yata and MOS have decided to "discuss" these matters. The arrogance and self appointed position that they put themselves in shows how these people feel about themselves; and where they put the rest of the world. |
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