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[Big_Bird]

Hahaha! This l'il ol' lady had it coming!

Chicago police Taser 82-year-old woman

[Captain Corea]

Heavy old gal.

[igotthisguitar]

RCMP Return Video To Man Who Recorded Taser Death
Thu Nov 8, 6:47 PM

By Stephanie Levitz, The Canadian Press

VANCOUVER - The agency that handles complaints about Canada's top cops launched its own investigation Thursday into the death of a Polish immigrant who was killed with an RCMP Taser at Vancouver's airport.

Meanwhile, a man who caught the incident on video said the public may see the recording next week.

RCMP have returned the video that apparently shows an agitated Robert Dziekanski being hit by the Taser and collapsing to his death to its owner Victoria resident Paul Pritchard

Public concern swirling around the case in part prompted the Commission for Public Complaints Against the RCMP to file their own complaint about the incident, commission chair Paul Kennedy told The Canadian Press in an interview on Thursday.

"This (case) clearly has got, to say the least, a significant human interest to it; it's a very unfortunate situation that arose," Kennedy said.

"I think it is one we have to look at carefully and make sure that everything is done that can be done to address public concerns."

The complaint will allow the commission to look both at the use of force and also whether the RCMP investigation into the incident is itself adequate.

Kennedy said he doesn't doubt the impartiality of the police officers - in this case the RCMP's "Integrated" Homicide Investigation Team - investigating their own.

But he said he wants to be sure they are doing all they can to get to the bottom of the Dziekanski's death.

Pritchard, who recorded the confrontation between Dziekanski and the RCMP, has said he wants the public to see what happened early on the morning of Oct. 14 when the newly arrived immigrant was zapped by two 50,000-volt charges from the Taser.

MORE ...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/071108/national/airport_taser_32

[igotthisguitar]

THUGS



http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/airport_taser

THIS ABOUT SAYS IT ALL ...

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dziekanski+taser

They've long been getting away with murder every day ("SCOT" FREE)

INTERESTING NEWS PIECE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSOeceqenX8

[Big_Bird]

[igotthisguitar]

Fatally Attacked Within Seconds
By Stephanie Levitz, The Canadian Press

VANCOUVER - Animalistic cries of pain are the last the world hears of a newly-arrived immigrant in dramatic video released Wednesday.

The images are so explosive Robert Dziekanski's mother, who hasn't seen the whole video, has been driven into seclusion to avoid seeing it repeated on newscasts, her lawyer told The Canadian Press.

But they also raise serious questions about why the police resorted to using the Taser only seconds after encountering the non-violent man last month at the Vancouver airport.

And it contradicts what police said happened that night.

Zofia Cisowski sits on a waiting list for psychiatric care to help her get through the loss of her only son, Walter Kosteckyj said, and so he hopes the gripping video holds the police accountable for their actions that night.

"People need to know the circumstances under which they seem to be willing to use (Tasers)," Kosteckyj said.

"I think it's a judgment for the Canadian people and it's fair for people to understand and see how these things are dealt with on a day-to-day basis."

MORE ...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/071114/national/airport_taser_2

[mithridates]

I'm bumping this thread up again since it's the main one.

[jinju]

These cops are SCUM. The RCMP are scumbags for covering up for these scumwads. They should be charged with murder but they wont.

[cbclark4]

The Manufacturer's manual always refers to local police policies on use of force.

The local police policies on use of force will always refer you to the Manufacturer's manual.

I think this is what is meant by a vicious circle.

Without responsibility can there be liability?

[igotthisguitar]

If any of them are freemasons, you be rest assured they will get off "SCOT" free.

It's been that way for years

[Leslie Cheswyck]

Tasers don't kill people. People kill people.

[Woland]

With the release of the tape, which is really harrowing - "Hit him again, hit him again" - I think it should be pretty clear now that the police overreacted in this case.

What is truly sad is the degree to which this was all preventable. In the final chapter of his book, Blink, Malcolm Gladwell discusses the well-known killing of Senegalese immigrant Amadou Diallo by NY police who mistook the wallet he removed from his pocket for a gun. Gladwell points to evidence that these kinds of errors reflect a tendency of police in teams to overreact to events - become engaged in high-speed chases, fire their weapons, etc. Police officers working alone tend to take more care before becoming engaged, and yet can still be equally effective. (Here's a link to a page from Slate where Gladwell discusses this chapter from the book: http://www.slate.com/id/2111894/entry/0/ )

If a single police officer had been sent to the scene in Vancouver airport to discern the situation, s/he might have been less likely to immediately feel a need to engage the suspect, and might have gathered enough information to decide that what was really needed was a translator, not a taser.

Ten hours waiting in an airport, in a country where you don't speak the language, after 24 hours of traveling, waiting to start a new life, the person you expect isn't there and you have no way of communicating what you need to those around you. I think any of us who travel regularly to places where we don't speak the language can share some sense of the anxiety this man must have felt. Perhaps he reacted more strongly than any of us would, but because we know English, it's not likely that we would have ever been so isolated as he was. He didn't deserve to die for this, or even just be tasered for it and live. Even if he were a little drunk, even if a thousand other things were wrong with him, he didn't deserve to die. And we should be concerned about this because there but for the accident of knowing English could go any of us.

The system - of immigration, of policing, even just airport services - failed horribly that day. We need to acknowledge that failure, take responsibility for it, and work to ensure that it doesn't happen again. As Gladwell points out in the Diallo case, I think that none of the police officers in this case were acting maliciously, but circumstances led them to bad decisions, and to someone else's death.

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[thepeel]

The police made no effort to calm the man. They used force as a first option and now a man is dead. If I did that, I'd be charged with manslaughter. That PIG should be too.