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stevemcgarrett
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
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 Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: TWEEDLEDEE VISITS TWEEDLEDUM IN TEHRAN: WHAT THREAT NEXT? |
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Ya know, for two leaders who claim to be in pursuit of world peace and understanding, they sure do make a lot of empty threats. Imagine if any Western leader were to do the same: the wrath of the media would descend on them in a nanosecond.
So now Chavez has found another soulmate in Ahmadine-jihad. Well, at least he's consistent in picking fascists as his butt buddies. Now to make a touring band of it he just needs to recruit Mugabe.
But let's give Hugo's latest threat some credence for a moment:
Do you think oil could actually hit $200 a barrel if the West launched an attack against Iran? If so, how? If not, why not? |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe not 200$, but it would likely pass 150$. The reason is that American military ships keep the Gulf open to energy exports (at a massive cost {oil firm subsidy} to the American consumer). The "real" price per barrel of oil, if the military expenditures are properly factored in, is likely far above 200$ a barrel. If those supply lines are threatened by, say, the sinking of an aircraft carrier or similar, prices will jump significantly.
The only threat to America from Iran is one of an Iranian retaliation to an American attack. The revolution needs an enemy. Let's not give them one.
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mcgeezer
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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I think it would get to 200$ dollars a barrel....Why? Because Chavez has hinted that an attack on Iran will leave him no choice but to limit, if not shut-down, oil exports to the U.S......It's not just Iran we're talking about!
That MIGHT be enough to pursuade the American public to demonstrate en-masse...especially the upper class who wil have to start forking out 400$ to fill the Escalade!  |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Stevie wrote:
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| Ya know, for two leaders who claim to be in pursuit of world peace and understanding, they sure do make a lot of empty threats. Imagine if any Western leader were to do the same: the wrath of the media would descend on them in a nanosecond. |
replace "empty threats" with "war"
now consider two other leaders who "claim to be in pursuit of world peace".
now consider the media in their country.
how many nanoseconds have passed thus far exactly?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
Maybe not 200$, but it would likely pass 150$. The reason is that American military ships keep the Gulf open to energy exports (at a massive cost {oil firm subsidy} to the American consumer). The "real" price per barrel of oil, if the military expenditures are properly factored in, is likely far above 200$ a barrel. If those supply lines are threatened by, say, the sinking of an aircraft carrier or similar, prices will jump significantly.
The only threat to America from Iran is one of an Iranian retaliation to an American attack. The revolution needs an enemy. Let's not give them one.
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But Iran has been after the US.
The US needs an insurance policy agianst Iran. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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| And what is the insurance policy? Being scared like little girls of a third world country that is in no way a meaningful threat to your country? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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PROJECT THOR (RODS FROM GOD) is the answer for Iran's nuclear program.
If Iran behaves themselves then they won't have a problem. If they do any kind of terror attack like at Kobar then they will loose their nuclear program. Iran's nuclear program is not longer an asset but rather a hostage. Most everything Iran wanted to gain from having nuclear weapons is now gone.
Here is another insurance policy
Insurance Policy |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:45 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah dude, that is the solution. More killing machines.
My mistake, geopolitics is now a game of "my dad can beat up your dad". |
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mcgeezer
Joined: 17 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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hahah youre right peel...
Joo really doesn't know what he's talking about and i've seen the "Iran has to give up their fight" & that exact same poste before you about ten times....
He thinks that if he keeps pounding our brains with these dtupid arguments that one day we will understand them!
COME ON JOO BE ORIGINAL!! |
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jinju
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| We must develop new sources of energy. Buying oil funds terrorists and our enemies. The day the West no longer needs oil from the likes of Venezuel or Iran will be a day when we could finally wipe them out for good. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| mcgeezer wrote: |
hahah youre right peel...
Joo really doesn't know what he's talking about and i've seen the "Iran has to give up their fight" & that exact same poste before you about ten times....
He thinks that if he keeps pounding our brains with these dtupid arguments that one day we will understand them!
COME ON JOO BE ORIGINAL!! |
How do I not know what I am talking about?
Iran hasn't been after the US? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
Yeah dude, that is the solution. More killing machines.
My mistake, geopolitics is now a game of "my dad can beat up your dad". |
Yes Iran is working on new killing machines. They can have nuclear weapons but they can't be allowed the strategic benefits of nuclear weapons. |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
But Iran has been after the US.
The US needs an insurance policy agianst Iran. |
Did I miss the last invasion?
When was that? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Captain Corea wrote: |
| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
But Iran has been after the US.
The US needs an insurance policy agianst Iran. |
Did I miss the last invasion?
When was that? |
Seems you missed a lot
Shipment of high explosives intercepted in Iraq
Most sophisticated of roadside bombs reportedly coming from Iran
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8829929/
9/11 Commission Finds Ties Between al-Qaeda and Iran
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| Senior U.S. officials have told TIME that the 9/11 Commission's report will cite evidence suggesting that the 9/11 hijackers had previously passed through Iran |
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,664967,00.html
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| The American military said Tuesday that it had credible evidence linking Iranians and their Iraqi associates, detained here in raids last week, to criminal activities, including attacks against American forces. Evidence also emerged that some detainees had been involved in shipments of weapons to illegal armed groups in Iraq. |
http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F0061EF635550C748EDDAB0994DE404482
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| On June 25, 1996, Iran again attacked America at Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, exploding a huge truck bomb that devastated Khobar Towers and murdered 19 U.S. airmen as they rested in their dormitory. These young heroes spent every day risking their lives enforcing the no-fly zone over southern Iraq; that is, protecting Iraqi Shiites from their own murderous tyrant. When I visited this horrific scene soon after the attack, I watched dozens of dedicated FBI agents combing through the wreckage in 120-degree heat, reverently handling the human remains of our brave young men. More than 400 of our Air Force men and women were wounded in this well-planned attack, and I was humbled by their courage and spirit. I later met with the families of our lost Khobar heroes and promised that we would do whatever was necessary to bring these terrorists to American justice. The courage and dignity these wonderful families have consistently exemplified has been one of the most powerful experiences of my 26 years of public service. |
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110003518
Iran responsible for 1983 Marine barracks bombing, judge rules
Friday, May 30, 2003 Posted: 11:14 PM EDT (0314 GMT)
Marines search through the rubble for their missing comrades after the 1983 barracks bombing in Beirut, Lebanon.
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| WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Iran is responsible for the 1983 suicide bombing of a U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, that killed 241 American servicemen, a U.S. District Court judge ruled Friday. |
http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/30/iran.barracks.bombing/
Amir Taheri: Khomeinists hammering new strategy to oust 'Great Satan'
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But at almost exactly the same time, militants from some 40 countries spread across the globe were trekking to Tehran for a 10-day "revolutionary jamboree" in which "a new strategy to confront the American Great Satan" will be hammered out. The event is scheduled to start on February 1 to mark the 25th anniversary of the return to Iran from exile of the late Ayatollah Khomeini, the founder of the "Islamic Revolution".
It is not clear how many militants will attend, but the official media promise a massive turnout to underline the Islamic Republic's position as the "throbbing heart of world resistance to American arrogance."
The guest list reads like a who-is-who of global terror.
In fact, most of the organisations attending the event, labelled "Ten-Days of Dawn", are branded by the US and some European Union members as terrorist outfits. For more than two decades, Tehran has been a magnet for militant groups from many different national and ideological backgrounds.
The Islamic Republic's hospitality cuts across even religious divides. Militant Sunni organisations, including two linked to Al Qaida, Ansar al-Islam (Companions of Islam) and Hizb Islami (The Islamic Party), enjoy Iranian hospitality.
They are joined by Latin American guerrilla outfits, clandestine Irish organisations, Basque and Corsican separatists, and a variety of leftist groups from Spartacists to Trotskyites and Guevarists. Tehran is the only capital where all the Palestinian militant movements have offices and, in some cases, training and financial facilities. |
http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/04/01/28/109235.html
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U.S.: Top Iran officials ordering bombs to Iraq
Orders to send armor-piercing bombs came from highest levels, official says |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17097658/ |
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JMO
Joined: 18 Jul 2006
Location: Daegu
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| Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I say Project Thor: Rods from God is just homoerotic enough to get the job done. |
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