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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody chooses the culture and nationality they were born into. If, at an age of maturity, you wish to reject your culture and choose another, I see no problem with that.
The interesting question is why.
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TheMrCul



Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Korea, finally...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:28 am    Post subject: Being Korean Reply with quote

Heh, the Koreans at church comment that I have got a foreigner body with a Korean mind. Maybe it's because I'm pretty conservative. I hope to be fluent in Korean someday... Though I can hold a basic conversation in Korean with no english now. Very Happy Cool I do love Korean food, but since I'm still living in Australia and have never been to Korea, it's not as if I can only hang out with Koreans and reject the 'foreigner' community here!
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Ryst Helmut



Joined: 26 Apr 2003
Location: In search of the elusive signature...

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: Being Korean Reply with quote

TheMrCul wrote:
Heh, the Koreans at church comment that I have got a foreigner body with a Korean mind. Maybe it's because I'm pretty conservative. I hope to be fluent in Korean someday... Though I can hold a basic conversation in Korean with no english now. Very Happy Cool I do love Korean food, but since I'm still living in Australia and have never been to Korea, it's not as if I can only hang out with Koreans and reject the 'foreigner' community here!


Ummmm, I don't know where to start...and I've only 2 minutes....

Yes, I grew up in Korean communities, but when I moved to Korea, I found that everything I THOUGHT I knew...I was sooooooooooooo wrong. Move here, and you'll get what I mean....maybe.

Shoosh,

Ryst
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Being Korean Reply with quote

Ryst Helmut wrote:
TheMrCul wrote:
Heh, the Koreans at church comment that I have got a foreigner body with a Korean mind. Maybe it's because I'm pretty conservative. I hope to be fluent in Korean someday... Though I can hold a basic conversation in Korean with no english now. Very Happy Cool I do love Korean food, but since I'm still living in Australia and have never been to Korea, it's not as if I can only hang out with Koreans and reject the 'foreigner' community here!


Ummmm, I don't know where to start...and I've only 2 minutes....

Yes, I grew up in Korean communities, but when I moved to Korea, I found that everything I THOUGHT I knew...I was sooooooooooooo wrong. Move here, and you'll get what I mean....maybe.


I was going to mention something similar. I mean, I love hanging around Koreans when I'm NOT in Korea. They really are great people.. kind, honest.. everything about them I like alot.

But in Korea.. its just different. Not good or bad.. but yeah, guess you have to be here Wink
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know one of these people that the original OP talks about. Basically there will be just foreigners there but he will just sproat in Korean for 2 minutes and then say, oh I speak Korean so much I'm just so used to it.
I'm all for people learning Korean(I am one myself) but if I did that i would think I'm a prat. I said to this guy it is great that you speak Korean, congrats and all but you've forgotton how to speak English then piss off and go and talk to the Koreans. he was doing it in aself-condescending way in the I've been here longer than you and I have to prove it thing.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
he was doing it in aself-condescending way in the I've been here longer than you and I have to prove it thing.

I have little toleration for those kinds.. I mean any condescending attitude trying to prove something or another.

Some moron in Itaewon was raging on and on how he hasn't went home in 5 years.. so I asked him where he's been.. thinking if he was anything at like alot of other really cool guys I know around Korea.. he's probably well traveled and knows some cool stuff.. maybe some similar experiences.. maybe even knows some people I know.

He got in my face saying 'i've been right here man. right here, 5 years man. 5 years! you probably just got here or something, huh?' real condescending and being an asshole.

Can't stand that kind of guy.. I know many who have been here alot longer.. and tons more who have only been here half of the time but actually left Korea and saw a number of other places in the world as well. Here he was bragging and being as asshole who never traveled and 5 years isn't even that long compared to others who don't boast it and been here much longer. (I've met a good dozen or so who has been here longer than 10 years.. a couple longer than 15 years.. and one who first came here in 1972 as part of the Peace Corps and never left.. I never heard any of them boast or be an asshole about it.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about Westerners who think they're in the West? You know...they speak English as if it were the local language, they date Westerners exclusively, they only eat Western food, and they don't hang out with Koreans?
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What about Westerners who think they're in the West? You know...they speak English as if it were the local language, they date Westerners exclusively, they only eat Western food, and they don't hang out with Koreans?


They are prats as well Rolling Eyes . I find this is the case with a lot of foreigners here except for the dating part for males that will all try to get in the pants of whatever Korean hoe who is stringing along 5 foreigners foir her own game. Its a pity to come to another country and be just as ignorant about it as when you came(except that they will say everything is bad).I pity these people who have a great opportunity but are too busy hitting the bottle every weekend that they miss all things around them.

What i hate is a person who will say I haven't been anywhere or done anything in Korea because I'm saving money yet every weekend will sink 200 000 won plus on alcohol. Get a life. I'm all for the occasional drunken night but there are other things in life as well(sorry for the rant).
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Shakedown Street

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
What about Westerners who think they're in the West? You know...they speak English as if it were the local language, they date Westerners exclusively, they only eat Western food, and they don't hang out with Koreans?

I think, as far as the dating goes, that there could be other reasons for this. Dating and relationships are rather a personal thing and many people, including myself, would have a problem dating someone they could not communicate with on a completely open and understandable level.

As for the other things, I completely agree.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know what you're saying, Zed, I was just trying to parallel the OP's post.
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