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yawarakaijin
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| The system isnt merely used for those wishing to enter Japan for vacation or short term stays. It will be used to fingerprint and photograph ALL foreigners entering Japan EACH and EVERY time. |
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Umm, but how is immigration going to know who everyone really is unless they get a fingerprint each and every time?
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By that standard then, you should fingerprint EVERYONE just to make sure they are who they say they are. What's to say a crazy Japanese loon who has gone over to the Taliban is'nt going to be the one to bring terrorism to Japan. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| Julius wrote: |
| You will need to have details of the hotel you are staying and have reserved. Also details of why you are entering. |
This has always been true of Japan. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| yawarakaijin wrote: |
| The system isnt merely used for those wishing to enter Japan for vacation or short term stays. It will be used to fingerprint and photograph ALL foreigners entering Japan EACH and EVERY time. |
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Umm, but how is immigration going to know who everyone really is unless they get a fingerprint each and every time?
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By that standard then, you should fingerprint EVERYONE just to make sure they are who they say they are. |
I imagine it'd be a lot harder for a non-Japanese person to fake being Japanese than to fake being another non-Japanese. And how many Japanese have committed immigration violations in Japan? That's one of the reasons for the fingerprinting.
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| What's to say a crazy Japanese loon who has gone over to the Taliban is'nt going to be the one to bring terrorism to Japan. |
Nothing. But Japanese terrorists would necessarily need to go through immigration in the first place. |
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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:35 am Post subject: |
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What exactly is the problem? They let you in, didn't they?
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I just got back from Japan.
I had trouble getting in (4 days ago). Yes, there is a fingerprint machine at the counter, you put both index fingers on the sensor.They took me aside while they examined my new passport for a while. Eventually they let me go when i asked "Whats the problem exactly. Is something wrong?" they could not give a proper answer. I was a bit annoyed..
Likewise the next waygook behind me got similar treatment.
it appears that they are trying to show foreigners a tough time, apparently because they want to crackdown on foreigners entering to look for work. Thats what i heard.
You will need to have details of the hotel you are staying and have reserved. Also details of why you are entering.
But yes, it seems to be another stupid crackdown thing. I won't go as far as slamming them as racists just yet though because they are certainly way nicer than koreans... |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:47 am Post subject: |
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| I won't go as far as slamming them as racists just yet though because they are certainly way nicer than koreans... |
 wow this oozes double standard...sad part is you probably do not even know or see it... |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| I won't go as far as slamming them as racists just yet though because they are certainly way nicer than koreans... |
wow this oozes double standard...sad part is you probably do not even know or see it... |
He speaks bad of Koreans. Ban him!!! |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 9:28 am Post subject: |
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Not the point huffdaddy but you are entertaining...
Now, take a deep breath, turn on your brain and re-read the sentence he posted...if you do not see a double standard there...well what can I say...
Actually I will help you out because you might not see it..
I won't go as far as slamming them as racists just yet though because they are certainly way nicer than Americans...
There now..does that help make it clearer for ya?
OK...I will help you more because heck you seem like you need it and I am just that type of guy.
The sentence is a double standard because it seems clear that if the new entry policy had been implemented by Korea he would have gone ballistic and called them racists right off the bat...
Got it now huffie? |
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Manner of Speaking
Joined: 09 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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You guys are kinda missing the point.
America/Canada/UK/etc. wants to keep a database of all their nationals who travel overseas. But they can't fingerprint their own citizens, that would be a violation of their privacy...
So instead, they fingerprint or take a photo of every person who enters their respective country, since they are, after all, just visitors, not voters...
Then they share or exchange the databases with each other. To get around their own privacy restrictions. In the interests of "fighting terrorism", of course. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
You guys are kinda missing the point.
America/Canada/UK/etc. wants to keep a database of all their nationals who travel overseas. But they can't fingerprint their own citizens, that would be a violation of their privacy...
... they share or exchange the databases with each other. To get around their own privacy restrictions. In the interests of "fighting terrorism", of course. |
Can't fingerprint their OWN as this is how CRIMINALS are treated.
Yes, that's right ... keep thinking  |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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OK...I will help you more because heck you seem like you need it and I am just that type of guy. |
And here, let me help you. Get a sense of humor. And stop being The Dud. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Got a very healthy sense of humor...but..humor has to be present in order for a person to laugh...you presented no such amusement.
Sorry. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 3:39 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
| Got a very healthy sense of humor...but..humor has to be present in order for a person to laugh...you presented no such amusement. |
We're not laughing with you. We're laughing at you. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:06 am Post subject: |
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Right back at you huffie...you are amusing in a sad kind of way.
Keep taking your shots buddy...whatever floats your little barque. |
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