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yingwenlaoshi
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 Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:43 am Post subject: Abominable Snowman |
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Looks like they found footprints in the Himalayas. Maybe only 24 hours old.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071130/od_uk_nm/oukoe_uk_nepal_yeti
That would be an amazing discovery. Apparently the group who is searching has found other weird creatures in the world before. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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'New' giant ape found in DR Congo
Scientists believe they have discovered a new group of giant apes in the jungles of central Africa.
The animals, with characteristics of both gorillas and chimpanzees, have been sighted in the north of the Democratic Republic of Congo.
According to local villagers, the apes are ferocious, and even capable of killing lions.
A report about the mysterious creatures is published in this week's edition of the UK magazine New Scientist.
If they are a new species of primate, it could be one of the most important wildlife discoveries in decades.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3730574.stm |
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Czarjorge
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:18 am Post subject: |
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If these new apes are a hybrid of gorilla and chimp mating it opens up whole new worlds. I want to have a gorilla baby.
Hmm, I wonder if anyone has ever tried? |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| According to Michael Crichton's novel 'Next', the Nazis tried interspecies breeding, to no success. |
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Bibbitybop
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| According to Michael Crichton's novel 'Next', the Nazis tried interspecies breeding, to no success. |
In another one of his novels, however, scientists were able to bring dinosaurs out of extinction using preserved DNA. |
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yingwenlaoshi
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:39 am Post subject: |
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You can joke all you want, but it seems they did find footprints. I'm not one to believe ghost stories, but it's possible there's another kind of creature out there. Just like the crazy ones they've found in the deepest parts of the world's oceans.
It would be cool if they found some sorto of yeti. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:38 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
You can joke all you want, but it seems they did find footprints. I'm not one to believe ghost stories, but it's possible there's another kind of creature out there. Just like the crazy ones they've found in the deepest parts of the world's oceans.
It would be cool if they found some sorto of yeti. |
First Live Giant Squid Photographed
This extraordinary image, captured by Japanese scientists, marks the first-ever record of a live giant squid in the wild.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/photogalleries/giant_squid/
"Colossal Squid" Revives Legends of Sea Monsters
Last month fishermen in the icy Ross Sea encountered a deep-sea giant.
Almost 20 feet (6 meters) long, with spiked tentacles and huge, protruding eyes, it was feeding on Patagonian toothfish caught on longlines set by the fishermen.The creature was hauled aboard and taken to New Zealand for analysis. This confirmed the encounter as the first live sighting of a colossal squid.
Usually called Mesonychoteuthis hamiltoni, scientists who examined the Ross Sea specimen coined the term "colossal squid" to distinguish it from giant squid (Architeuthis). They say the species is the biggest and most fearsome squid known to science and could grow to 40 feet (12 meters) in length�longer than a whale.
"Giant squid is no longer the largest squid that's out there. We've got something that's even larger, and not just larger but an order of magnitude meaner."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0423_030423_seamonsters.html
"Weird" New Squid Species Discovered in Deep Sea
Deep-sea submersibles have spotted and filmed a new type of squid in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, and the Pacific, Atlantic, and Indian Oceans.
"We have never seen anything like it," says cephalopod biologist Michael Vecchione, of the National Museum of Natural History in Washington. "It just shows how little we know about life-forms in the deep sea."
The newly discovered squid has ten indistinguishable appendages which all appear the same length and which radiate from the main axis of the body like spokes on a bicycle wheel. All of the appendages have a sharp bend, like an elbow, from which the rest of the arm hangs straight down.
Other particularly "weird" features are the two enormous fins that stick out from a comparatively tiny body. The two fins are like elephant ears that flap as the creature floats around.
"It's a very weird-looking thing�really big fins, really long arms and this tiny little body in between," says Vecchione.
Although no specimens have been captured, Vecchione suspects that the creature belongs to the recently identified squid family Magnapinnidae.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1220_TVweirdsquid.html
Keep an open mind, or you will find yourself continually embarrassed by new discoveries. They are continually finding new, large creatures totally new to science. |
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JMO
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:17 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
You can joke all you want, but it seems they did find footprints. I'm not one to believe ghost stories, but it's possible there's another kind of creature out there. Just like the crazy ones they've found in the deepest parts of the world's oceans.
It would be cool if they found some sorto of yeti. |
First Live Giant Squid Photographed
This extraordinary image, captured by Japanese scientists, marks the first-ever record of a live giant squid in the wild.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/09/photogalleries/giant_squid/
"Colossal Squid" Revives Legends of Sea Monsters
Last month fishermen in the icy Ross Sea encountered a deep-sea giant.
Almost 20 feet (6 meters) long, with spiked tentacles and huge, protruding eyes, it was feeding on Patagonian toothfish caught on longlines set by the fishermen.The creature was hauled aboard and taken to New Zealand for analysis. This confirmed the encounter as the first live sighting of a colossal squid.
Usually called Mesonychoteuthis hamiltoni, scientists who examined the Ross Sea specimen coined the term "colossal squid" to distinguish it from giant squid (Architeuthis). They say the species is the biggest and most fearsome squid known to science and could grow to 40 feet (12 meters) in length�longer than a whale.
"Giant squid is no longer the largest squid that's out there. We've got something that's even larger, and not just larger but an order of magnitude meaner."
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/04/0423_030423_seamonsters.html
"Weird" New Squid Species Discovered in Deep Sea
Deep-sea submersibles have spotted and filmed a new type of squid in the deep waters of the Gulf of Mexico, and the Pacific, Atlantic, and Indian Oceans.
"We have never seen anything like it," says cephalopod biologist Michael Vecchione, of the National Museum of Natural History in Washington. "It just shows how little we know about life-forms in the deep sea."
The newly discovered squid has ten indistinguishable appendages which all appear the same length and which radiate from the main axis of the body like spokes on a bicycle wheel. All of the appendages have a sharp bend, like an elbow, from which the rest of the arm hangs straight down.
Other particularly "weird" features are the two enormous fins that stick out from a comparatively tiny body. The two fins are like elephant ears that flap as the creature floats around.
"It's a very weird-looking thing�really big fins, really long arms and this tiny little body in between," says Vecchione.
Although no specimens have been captured, Vecchione suspects that the creature belongs to the recently identified squid family Magnapinnidae.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/12/1220_TVweirdsquid.html
Keep an open mind, or you will find yourself continually embarrassed by new discoveries. They are continually finding new, large creatures totally new to science. |
that picture is so cool...we really have to spend more money exploring the oceans |
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Manner of Speaking
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| The only known samples of 'yeti fur' ever submitted to DNA analysis turned out to be from the Himalayan Brown Bear...which is capable of walking upright... |
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Bibbitybop
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
You can joke all you want, but it seems they did find footprints. I'm not one to believe ghost stories, but it's possible there's another kind of creature out there. Just like the crazy ones they've found in the deepest parts of the world's oceans.
It would be cool if they found some sorto of yeti. |
Why didn't one of the nine producers take a picture of and publish their found footprint? |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe because they couldn't make better fakes than the pix published decades ago. |
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yingwenlaoshi
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Bibbitybop wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
You can joke all you want, but it seems they did find footprints. I'm not one to believe ghost stories, but it's possible there's another kind of creature out there. Just like the crazy ones they've found in the deepest parts of the world's oceans.
It would be cool if they found some sorto of yeti. |
Why didn't one of the nine producers take a picture of and publish their found footprint? |
Good point. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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Finding previously overlooked creatures in remote wild areas is a continuing reality, and its entirely possible that we find a reclusive new species of ape in the himalayas. Its a massive and mostly previously innaccessible area.
Some people are able to entertain the possibility of there being more out there than we yet know of, or that our still narrow perspective may not be the final word.
The potential for new finds increases every year with advances in technology, scientific methods, and the fact that people are increasingly spreading into areas that were formerly too hostile for human settlement.
As I say, if you constantly rule out everything as a fairy story, you will constantly be surprised at the wealth of new discoveries being made... |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| and its entirely possible that we find |
Actually, it's only remotely possible. There is only a small chance that a large previously unknown animal is found on land. The sea is another story.
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| if you constantly rule out everything as a fairy story, you will constantly be surprised at the wealth of new discoveries being made... |
On the other hand, if you accept every rumor that comes around and insist it's probable until proven wrong, you'll just sound like a fool. |
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Junior
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| Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| The sea is another story. |
granted. But
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| There is only a small chance that a large previously unknown animal is found on land. |
not so.
You see the criteria is not how big the animal is, but how secretive it is: and especially,does it live in a remote and relatively unexplored area? The himalayas definitely qualifies.
Here is new species discovery central.
http://www.wildlifeextra.com/new-species.html
As you see.. new mammals are commonly discovered. Its not a rare occurence. Even large animals. At least 5 new marsupials, 25 primates, 3 lagamorphs, 1 sloth, 1 new leopard, at least 30 new bats, 4 cetaceans and 4 terrestrial ungulates have been discovered since 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_mammal_species
Discovered in the past 7 years only:
Laoatian Rock rat.
Discovered in 2005. Previously known only from "11 million year old fossils"  Isn't it amazing how these extinct "multimillion year old fossils" keep reappearing, totally unchanged?
Bornean clouded leopard.
Goldenpalace.com monkey.
Pygmy three-toed sloth.
Kipunji: 2005.
Arunachal macaque: 2004
And many more. So it is in fact extremely likely that new large mammals will be discovered in even the next 5 years.
And when a person dogmatically states otherwise, "they start to look like a fool". |
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