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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:45 pm    Post subject: McCain's Surge Reply with quote

Polls: McCain Gaining In Iowa, New Hampshire

New polling from Rasmussen shows John McCain surging in both Iowa and New Hampshire, while Mike Huckabee has lost some of his previous advantages.

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In Iowa, Huckabee now has a narrow lead of 28% to Romney's 27%, with McCain now in third with 14%. That's a huge change from their last poll a week ago, when Huckabee had 39%, Romney 23% and McCain was in fifth place at 6%.

In New Hampshire, Romney has 31%, McCain 27%, Rudy Giuliani 13%, and Huckabee 11%. A week ago, it was Romney 33%, McCain 18%, Giuliani 15%, and Huckabee 14%.


Seems like McCain's polling numbers are inversely proportional with the amount of casualties taken in Iraq.

Notice McCain's strength in NH, right in Romney's backyard.

If Bush can keep casualties down, we may see a viable Republican candidacy yet. That is, provided voters can look past health care, the economy, and the general sorry-ass job Republicans have done over the past 6 years. Laughing

McCain's strategy was smart. He might as well support the war in Iraq. If he hadn't, the lack of success there would have made a Republican win in the general election impossible anyway.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as Iowa is concerned, the surge could be the result of the endorsement he received from the Des Moines Register. It's the only state-wide newspaper.


This was posted by czarjorge earlier this week on the Iowa caucus thread:

The Register's caucus endorsements: McCain, Clinton
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071215/NEWS/71215016
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
As far as Iowa is concerned, the surge could be the result of the endorsement he received from the Des Moines Register. It's the only state-wide newspaper.


McCain also picked up the Boston Globe endorsement. It seems Republicans are so lost they need guidance as to whom to vote for. [Hint: not the anti-NAFTA gold-standard bearer]
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Tiger Beer



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really believe McCain is washed up.

But, all of the leading Republican candidates are a miserable bunch of people with some fairly scarey attributes. I think the voting base just can't decide which of these guys is worth anything to actually support. Now it's shifting back to McCain.

I don't expect it to stick though.

The Iowa Caucas is going to be very interesting. Wish I was back in the States to watch it all first-hand.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Manchester Union Leader also Endorsed McCain which was a surprise.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

McCain has his part in the "dog & pony" show ... Rolling Eyes

PROOF Ron Paul will be The President
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Kgzfu_b6v44&feature=related

Don't Stop Ron Paul
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cljxvlnrEOs&feature=related
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger Beer wrote:
I really believe McCain is washed up.


Oh, yeah?

Online funding for McCain up 500%
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's far too early to call this thing, considering the enormous economic collapse that is going to take place in '08.

Let's see who the people want to vote for when that happens.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who Would The World Elect?
http://www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/


Surprising Ron Paul Sparks A Movement
GOP Presidential Hopeful Has Fervent Followers And A Message Whose Resonance Surprises Even Him

PLYMOUTH, N.H., Dec. 21, 2007

(CBS) His progress has been as gradual as a tortoise on ice, but Ron Paul can no longer be dismissed as the favorite of the fringe, reports CBS News correspondent Dean Reynolds.

Unlike other candidates consigned to the periphery, Paul has refused to go away.

He is now in a tie for third in Iowa with supposed top-tier hopefuls.
Idea

And in live-free-or-die New Hampshire, he believes his anti-Iraq war, anti-tax, pro-freedom message with its libertarian tinge may resonate.

"People are flocking to the campaign," says Paul. "Maybe they've been starved for a campaign like this."

Paul's trip to Plymouth was promising: one woman told Reynolds that he was following the next president.

"Absolutely! No doubt," she says.

Paul's supporters are fervent - almost feverish - both on the ground and online.

He has used the Internet to drum up the bulk of an eye-popping 18 million dollars in this quarter alone from what he says are frustrated members of both parties and first-time voters. If money talks, Ron Paul is shouting.

"I am surprised," Paul says. "But I'm disappointed that I am surprised. Why shouldn't this be a popular message? Why was I pessimistic?"

He adds: "Why do we assume that everybody wants the status quo? And evidently they don't."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/21/eveningnews/main3640041.shtml
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multimedia/Player.aspx?guid=ac7fdf93-2b6e-4a73-84ce-dec73761a30a
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/Multimedia/Player.aspx?guid=ac7fdf93-2b6e-4a73-84ce-dec73761a30a


The Code of Conduct is what all US soldiers, marines, airmen and sailors must learn verbatim to this day:

The Code of Conduct wrote:



I

I am an American, fighting in the forces which guard my country and our way of life. I am prepared to give my life in their defense.

II

I will never surrender of my own free will. If in command, I will never surrender the members of my command while they still have the means to resist.

III

If I am captured I will continue to resist by all means available. I will make every effort to escape and to aid others to escape. I will accept neither parole nor special favors from the enemy.

IV

If I become a prisoner of war, I will keep faith with my fellow prisoners. I will give no information or take part in any action which might be harmful to my comrades. If I am senior, I will take command. If not, I will obey the lawful orders of those appointed over me and will back them up in every way.

V

When questioned, should I become a prisoner of war, I am required to give name, rank, service number, and date of birth. I will evade answering further questions to the utmost of my ability. I will make no oral or written statements disloyal to my country and its allies or harmful to their cause.

VI

I will never forget that I am an American, fighting for freedom, responsible for my actions, and dedicated to the principles which made my country free. I will trust in my God and in the United States of America.



http://www.armystudyguide.com/content/army_board_study_guide_topics/code_of_conduct/the-code-of-conduct.shtml

These codes were implemented by Gen. Dwight Eisenhower. John McCain had to follow these codes as well and practice them. Therefore, IMHO, There is no other presidential candidate with same level of moral integrity as that of John McCain.
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twg



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pluto wrote:
There is no other presidential candidate with same level of moral integrity as that of John McCain.

You mean the guy who started pandering towards the hardcore right as soon as he decided to run for president again?
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

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These codes were implemented by Gen. Dwight Eisenhower. John McCain had to follow these codes as well and practice them. Therefore, IMHO, There is no other presidential candidate with same level of moral integrity as that of John McCain.


Who did you vote for in 2004?
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ontheway



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Tiger Beer wrote:
I really believe McCain is washed up.


Oh, yeah?

Online funding for McCain up 500%




"Late Update: One necessary caveat: As Josh says, 'big percentage jumps are a lot easier to put together when you're coming back from near zero.' "
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

twg wrote:
Pluto wrote:
There is no other presidential candidate with same level of moral integrity as that of John McCain.

You mean the guy who started pandering towards the hardcore right as soon as he decided to run for president again?


Water under the bridge of the nose, considering that McCain has always opposed what matters: torture. He's stood solid on most of his positions, so I'd describe his earlier tactics as flirting with the Religious Right rather than pandering.

I don't think I could vote for McCain. He's a bit more right-wing than he gets portrayed in the media. But he's a heartening combination between a fact-based realist and an idealist who refuses to bow to political expediency. Is there anyone better on the Republican side?
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