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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:41 pm    Post subject: FBI admits lie linking Oswald to JFK assassination Reply with quote

FBI Now Admits Evidence Used to Connect Oswald to Kennedy Assassination Was Bogus

Posted December 28th, 2007 by boston911truth.org

Jonathan Elinoff
www.TruthAlliance.net
Thursday December 20, 2007

The front page of the Sunday Washington Post features, "FBI Forensic Test Full of Holes." It claims that hundreds of defendants sitting in prisons nationwide have been convicted with the help of an FBI forensic tool that has been found to be completely full of inconsistent results and has actually been discarded by the FBI for such reasons more than two years ago. But the FBI lab has failed to take or attempt to alert any of the affected defendants or courts, even though the window for appealing convictions is closing.

As early as 1991, the FBI conducted studies on the reliability of the "bullet-lead" analysis used to connect bullets found at the scene of a crime to bullets in the possession of a suspect. The studies found that lead composition of bullets in the same box didn't always match, which should have been a sign that the test was completely unreliable. Further analysis discovered that bullets packaged 15 months apart in different areas of the country in different boxes, unexpectedly matched - a gap the forensic testing originally claimed had different bullet lead make-up.

The Innocence Project is a group of individuals who have committed their time and finances to investigate claims of innocence in convicted cases where DNA testing was never available. To date, over 200 individuals have been set free due to the DNA analysis of many rape cases confirming that the child born from a rape victim's DNA didn't match the accused and convicted individual. Hopefully, they will pick this flawed forensic test up and begin to look at the tens of thousands of people estimated to have been placed in prison solely on this bogus "bullet-lead analysis."

This is just the tip of the iceberg. The test, now confirmed by the FBI's own admittance, has actually been used to connect people to crimes they never committed. The test was first initiated and used on July 8, 1964 by order of J Edgar Hoover for the Warren Commission to connect Lee Harvey Oswald to the assassination of former President John F. Kennedy. Throughout the following decades, this same test has been used to convict civil rights activists and gang members, many of which have maintained their "innocence."

The forensic test was the only major connection Oswald had to the actual scene of the crime. For Kennedy assassination researchers, this is a big leap. For years, the only evidence outside this forensic connection has been completely circumstantial. Oswald never confessed to the murder and actually stated to the public that he believed he was being made a patsy. Oswald was only picked up because an APB had been ordered in Dallas in his description, even though no one saw the shooter.

Oswald maintained that he had gone down to the parade to see the President's motorcade pass, as did everyone, when he was working that day. A famous picture surfaced that many researchers believe identifies Oswald in the doorway of the School Book Depository as the motorcade passed and was not in the sixth-floor window as he was accused to have been.

The interrogation which took place for several hours was not recorded, a violation of standard operating procedure. Oswald was murdered the next morning on live television while being transported in the parking garage at the local jail. Jack Ruby, the man who shot Oswald, was a major mafia/CIA connected nightclub owner and hated Kennedy with a passion. Kennedy's younger brother, Bobby Kennedy, was mounting a large scale war against organized crime, even though the Kennedy's had used the mafia in voter fraud crimes to get elected. The Kennedy empire was built from bootlegging alcohol in an organized crime syndicate that Joe Kennedy, John and Bobby's father, ran with connections to Al Capone. Of the many odd factors in the assassination of the former president, it turns out Jack Ruby ran bootlegging in Chicago for crime boss Al Capone in his early years as well.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'lie' and 'bogus' are fairly strong words. I didn't see anything in that article that said the FBI deliberately skewed the results of the test.

Rather than convince me that Oswald was innocent, the use of deliberately distorted reports such as this with words like 'lie' and 'bogus' just convince me more than ever that the people still obsessed with this issue are mentally unstable.
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regicide



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:


Rather than convince me that Oswald was innocent, the use of deliberately distorted reports such as this with words like 'lie' and 'bogus' just convince me more than ever that the people still obsessed with this issue are mentally unstable.


Unbelievable comment, Yata �Boy! Do you know how many people you are talking about and the reason we do care? Countless scholars and other really smart people are presently active in this case.

Your comments are unwarranted. Why don't you address the issue at hand or just ignore these posts?

The fact that the government got away with this murder gave them a blank check to do whatever they wanted to in the decades following this murder. We are all so sorry to burst your bubble about the credibility of your hallowed United States. But they did kill the Kennedys, Dr. King and countless others stateside and around the world.

This is the entity you defend while calling anyone who questions otherwise ill?

Shame on you.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why don't you address the issue at hand or just ignore these posts?


Because, like MoS, I think conspiracy theories result from personal mental problems and are destructive of the social fabric.
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regicide



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:59 am    Post subject: E Martin Schotzm MD, is Crazy says MOS, Gopher and Yata-Boy Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Quote:
Why don't you address the issue at hand or just ignore these posts?


Because, like MoS, I think conspiracy theories result from personal mental problems and are destructive of the social fabric.


Then, E. Martin Schotz, M.D., a psychologist who practices in JFK's hometown of Boston, author of History Will Not Absolve Us has personal mental problems too.

And because the murder was so cleverly hidden from the American people, there were no problems with our social fabric at that time. Now that the cat is out of the bag, the government is going to have to pay the piper. That is the way things work. They shouldn't have done what they did.


History Will Not Absolve Us is an anthology. Its centerpiece is a 1995 letter from Schotz to attorney Vincent Salandria, who was one of the first to write critically of the Warren Report, and is a member of the aforementioned round-robin correspondence. The letter occupies about twenty-five pages of the book. The remaining 250-odd pages, presented as appendices, give the reader the background necessary to understand the letter's assertions. Authors whose work appear here range from Schotz to Salandria to Raymond Marcus, to Fidel Castro and Nikita Khrushchev.

One of the central theses of History Will Not Absolve Us is that the conspiracy to assassinate JFK was acceptable to the American Establishment because it did not upset our constitutional process. There really was no coup d' etat, Schotz believes; the dead president was replaced according to constitutional law, and it was business as usual. It seems to me this is a matter of semantics. Changing the head of state using the bullet over the ballot, as the expression goes, is certainly acting outside of constitutional law.
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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shame on you, regicide, for posting a link from another 911 conspiracy fruitcake! This guy is just another weirdo like Steven E. Jones. One of the strangest parts of History Will Not Absolve Us comes toward the end. There are two excerpts, or "dialogues," from a play written by Schotz in 1984, which he says he wrote to investigate the logic of war and the logic of peace. In one of the dialogues, JFK and Allen Dulles have a conversation in heaven (although if you accept the idea of an afterlife, it's hard to believe JFK and Dulles would end up in the same place). Kennedy is sitting in a rocking chair when Dulles comes sauntering along.


Quote:
Dulles: (friendly) Well, hello, Jack.
Kennedy: (jumps to feet) You! You dare speak to me?
Dulles: Why Jack, what's the matter?
Kennedy: Forget the pretense, do you think I don't know it was you who was behind my assassinaton?
Dulles: Oh, it's that, is it? Taking it personally, are you?
Kennedy: You're incredible. Do you expect me to greet my assassin with open arms?
Dulles: Now hold on, Jack. It is one thing to say that I was behind your assassination. It's another thing to call me your assassin.
Kennedy: And what would you call you?
Dulles: That's not the point, Jack. It's true I was behind your assassination, but who do you think was behind me?
Kennedy: Who?
Dulles: Why the people, Jack, the American people.
Kennedy: The people??
Dulles: Yes, and if the whole truth be told, who do you think was behind them?
Kennedy: Tell me.
Dulles: You, Jack, none other than you...


The dialogue continues. Dulles does most of the talking. He tells JFK that he, JFK, had assaulted democracy by first running on an anti-communist platform, then turning away from it after his election. And the people, Dulles says --- meaning the CIA, apparently --- had the right to correct that mistake. Dulles says that if JFK had suffered a fatal stroke instead of being assassinated, the transition of power would have worked just the same: "We didn't take over the government, we just shot you." At the end of this dialogue, Kennedy not only accepts what Dulles says, he asks his forgiveness!

Do you really expect anybody to take this seriously? Putting words in Kennedy's and Dulles's mouths by making up a play? Then again, you don't shy from quoting Crime Magazine as one of your sources, so I guess we all shouldn't be surprised. Laughing
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regicide



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manner of Speaking wrote:
Shame on you, regicide, for posting a link from another 911 conspiracy fruitcake!


Why don't your write Dr. ( MD) E. Martin Schotz and let him know what you think? Oh, thats right, you also have an MD in your pocket!

You have ascended to new lows, MOS.

Manner of Speaking wrote:
The effing testicular lesion himself, who purports to be concerned about the assassination of Kennedy, yet doesn't hesitate to post pictures from Kennedy's autopsy that were illegally stolen from his postmortem records.



This little-known book contains the distilled thought of a group of prominent and well-respected lawyers and psychiatrists, who were convinced as early as 1963 that Kennedy was shot by the CIA (at the behest of the military-industrial complex) for his increasingly "soft" stance toward Cuba and the USSR. The book contains facts that are both obvious and sinister, and lends credence to Schotz's assertion that almost everyone in America today "believes" in some conspiracy to kill Kennedy, but doesn't really want to know. The book's only weakness is its occasionally overly-complex language; this is not unexpected, given the profession of its authors.

MOS is getting angry again, and fails to acknowledge the pictures that show that Kennedy was shot in the back and not the back of the neck, thus invalidating the SBT.

Documents show that Warren Commission member Congressman Gerald Ford pressed the panel to change its description of the wound and place it higher in Kennedy�s body. Ford wanted the wording changed to: �A bullet had entered the back of his neck slightly to the right of the spine.� The panel�s final version was: �A bullet had entered the base of the back of his neck slightly to the right of the spine.�

The arrow in the photograph below shows where the bullet had to pass through Kennedy in order to conform to the preposterous Single Bullet Theory, when the bullet actually entered Kennedy's back.




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