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denistron



Joined: 21 Oct 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:55 pm    Post subject: 7 million Koreans abroad? Reply with quote

In Mr. Noh's New years speech last night he wished a happy new years to all koreans and the "7 million who are living abroad". Can anyone confirm that 7 million Koreans live abroad? Doesn't that seem like a huge number considering Korea has about 50 million citizens? That's over 10% if I have the numbers correct. Question
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least. Tons of illegals in various countries as well, but not sure how Korean expats are being classified to come up with 7 mil.
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tzechuk



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't surprise me.

And if Mr Lee's plan to send people overseas for internships/work experience type trips is really going to happen, there will be more.
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caniff



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a huge number in China alone.
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Yesterday



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Land of the Morning DongChim (Kancho)

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't doubt that figure at all....

Problem is - Koreans often telling foreigners to GET OUT of their country - GO HOME - this is MY COUNTRY...

yet 7 million Koreans live in OUR countries........
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Major Kong



Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love meeting Korean nationals abroad. Ohhh, the look in their eyes!
Sweet realization, much like I had when I first left my home.
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Major Kong



Joined: 29 Oct 2007
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

denistron, your avatar is so "Happy!". Perhaps it is just me, or are you
trying to inspire?
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is he talking about Korean citizens or ethnic Koreans? Why does he need to mention that? Is he really trying to make Korea seem like a cosmopolitan country or trying to make himself seem less of a xenophobe?

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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought he was refering ethnic Koreans living in other countries who are not ROK passport holders. But, if that number of 7 million are ROK passport holders who are out side of the boarders, speaks heaps obout the state of Korea now! I would have guessed the number would be closer to 3 to 4 million.
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idonojacs



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
7 million Koreans abroad?



Why?


Using Lee Dong-wook's logic, anyone who leaves Korea to work elsewhere must be a criminal.

Or perhaps, just perhaps, they don't like it here.
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Yesterday



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think he was refering to BOTH ethnic Koreans living in other countries who are are and who are not ROK passport holders.


The Korean Ministry of Population estimates that of the 61.3 million ethnic Koreans alive in the year 2000, 8.4 million live outside the boundaries of Korea.

Geez - maybe 1.4 million died since the year 2000?


What would be the MAIN countries these Koreans are living in?

MY guess would be -

(from largest down to least)...

Japan (most)
China
Russia
USA
Mexico
Brazil
Canada
Australia
Britain
Philippines
Argentina
Chile
Venezuela
Costa Rica.
Uzbekistan
Kyrgyzstan
Kazakhstan
N.Z.
Ukraine
Belarus
Moldova
Georgia
Azerbaijan (least)

More than half of these live in Japan, while roughly a million each live in Australia and Mexico, but there are also Korean communities numbering in the tens of thousands in Argentina, Chile, Venezuela, and Costa Rica.


Japan - Total: 4.8 million of Korean descent in 1996

Since 1967, Koreans have come to make up the sixth-largest community by ethnic origin in Australia, after Britons, Germans, Italians, Poles, and Indonesians.



http://www.ahtg.net/TpA/korean.html

http://www.jref.com/society/japanese_living_abroad.shtml

Large-scale emigration from Korea began as early as the mid-1860s, mainly into the Russian Far East and Northeast China; these emigrants became the ancestors of the 2 million ethnic Koreans in China and several hundred thousand ethnic Koreans in Central Asia.

During the Japanese colonial period of 1910-1945, Koreans were often recruited and or forced into labour service to work in mainland Japan, Karafuto Prefecture, and Manchukuo; the ones who chose to remain in Japan at the end of the war became known as Zainichi Koreans, while the roughly 40 thousand who were trapped in Karafuto after the Soviet invasion are typically referred to as Sakhalin Koreans.

Korean emigration to America was known to have begun as early as 1903, but the Korean American community did not grow to a significant size until after the passage of the Immigration Reform Act of 1965; now, roughly 2 million Koreans live in the United States.


Large Koreatowns can also be found in Australia, Brazil, and Canada. The largest Korean community outside of Korea is in Los Angeles, California. British Koreans now form Western Europe's largest Korean community; Koreans in Germany used to outnumber the ones in the UK until the late 1990s. There are also Koreatowns in Latin American countries such as Argentina, Guatemala, and Mexico. In recent years, the number of Koreans in the Philippines and Koreans in Vietnam have also grown significantly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koreans


This is only my guess - feel free to argue....


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Major Kong



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

d, misleads.













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Major Kong



Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check his avatar people, it is a put on. denistron came dressed to kill.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah, the ability to equate the part with the whole.

On the one hand, North Koreans are Koreans;
On the other hand, even Koreans talk about Koreans as if North Koreans were not Koreans.

This thread talks about Koreans with no reference to N.Kers: unless they are part of the 7 million living outside of the country. Wink

This kind of thing happens a lot.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually Stalin deported a huge amount of Koreans to the former Soviet Union, most I think ended up in Kazikistan. Not all of the people from Korea you went to other countries were willining migrants.

More info at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Koreans_in_the_Soviet_Union
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