Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

having trouble with both the recruiter and consulate
Goto page 1, 2  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
expat2001



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:47 pm    Post subject: having trouble with both the recruiter and consulate Reply with quote

Im suppose to start a job this Friday ( JAN 4 ). However , I still havent even had an interview with the Korean Consulate ( KC). I finally called the KC and was told that thye ; KC, have tried to call me in the past to arrange an interview. I then asked , why they didnt try to e mail me. I wasnt even answered. I dont believe them for a second. I was then told the reason it took so long for me to be given an interview time was that I forgot to submit certain pieces of materrial with my application .I told the consulate that I had sent those pieces to Korea , as the recruiter instructed.KC informed that both myself and the recruiter were wrong , and that I must have the pieces before the interview.I ask the KC if they could contact the reruiter , ..I was told Ii have to do it

So I call and e mail the recruiter to tell them what was happenging.I asked the recruitter to sort things out ( which is what they are being paid for). The RECRUITER told me , that I would have to solve this problem

My question is , has anyone out there experienced similar problems??
As I mentioned , Im suppose to start on Jan 4 . However I foresee another 1-2 weeks before I get this mess cleared up and go to Korea
I get the feeling that I will somehow get screwed when Ii arrive in korea , 1-2 weeks late
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
diablo3



Joined: 11 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, they asked for multiple contact details and did not use them all. Their fault to not contact you.

Also, if you are worried about all this, maybe you should take this with a grain of salt and just find another job. Remember, you are learning about the process, the school is learning about the process, and the consulate has no idea what they are doing and therefore are learning about the process themselves. Also, if you are worried about being screwed, it probably is your chance to pull out while it is early.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
expat2001



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Just it, you'd be kissing those parchments goodbye. But, no one to blame but yourself for sending them them...... Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
diablo3



Joined: 11 Sep 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this new changed process for E2 visas require you to send original degrees and results?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
expat2001



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was told tha the government only accept the real degrees .Back in nov when i signed .Very few seemed to know what was going on .
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

expat2001 wrote:
What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back


For future reference, you can go to the Korea consulate nearest you (don't know about other ones) and get official copies made of your degrees for a small fee with their official stamps on them. Then you can use those official copies rather than sending your original. I have done this.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R. S. Refugee wrote:
For future reference, you can go to the Korea consulate nearest you (don't know about other ones) and get official copies made of your degrees for a small fee with their official stamps on them. Then you can use those official copies rather than sending your original. I have done this.


You've done this SINCE the NEW E2 regs? What did you do, get the copies apostillized? Apostilled? What the hell is that past tense of that word? Is it even a verb? Whatever.

OP, you probably will get screwed in Korea. That is often life in Korea. Welcome to the fold. Make sure you have enough money to get HOME before you get here. I know the some of these "I couldn't get a decent job in Canada and needed to pay off loans" people will disagree, but really, you need to have SOME way of getting home.

As for "not believing" crap Koreans tell you... Learn this now: Nobody in the gov't has any frickin' clue what is going on. Not about anything, certainly not about these new E2 regs that have changed repeatedly. Recruiters are also clueless for the most part. They are good preparation for your boss, who will also be clueless.

And I'm one of the ones who likes Korea.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Draz



Joined: 27 Jun 2007
Location: Land of Morning Clam

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

expat2001 wrote:
What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back


The consulate does in fact need your original degree(s). All the guides around on applying for a visa have been clear on this. Why did you send your degree to the recruiter? Did he/she ask for it? The recruiter should have known better.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Norith



Joined: 02 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your recruiter doesn't care about you. Like the poster above stated, everyone who's job is directly tied to implementing the new E-2 changes will have no concrete information on how to make things run smoothly.

What document did the KC say that you needed to bring with you for the interview?

R.S. Refugee: When did you get the consulate to make a copy of your degree for you? I got a visa at the end of November, and the consulate in the U.S. made it pretty clear that there were no more Korean Consulates willing to provide that service. In July '07, Korea joined the Hague Convention, which means that Korea is supposed to accept notarized/apostilled documents instead of having to validate them through the KC.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
PastImperfect



Joined: 21 Oct 2007
Location: indeterminate

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Quote:
expat2001 wrote:
What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back


The consulate does in fact need your original degree(s). All the guides around on applying for a visa have been clear on this. Why did you send your degree to the recruiter? Did he/she ask for it? The recruiter should have known better.


I thought the original degree (or a notarised and apostilled copy of it) was required by immigration in Korea to produce the visa issuance number that you then supply to the consulate in your home country? If so, the recruiter or school would need to ask for those documents to be sent to them so they could supply them to immigration in Korea.

If you have links to the guides on applying for a visa that you mentioned, I'd love to see them. I'm confused myself.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the interview with the consulate idea was scrapped unless you were a "suspicious" applicant.

Also, in 2006, I never had to send my official degree anywhere. I got official copies made and notorized by my university and sent those copies to the secretary of state for their confirmation. Then, that can be sent to the Korean consulate for your visa through the mail.

Long process, but it beats ever having your degree in anyone else's hands.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Young FRANKenstein



Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R. S. Refugee wrote:
For future reference, you can go to the Korea consulate nearest you (don't know about other ones) and get official copies made of your degrees for a small fee with their official stamps on them. Then you can use those official copies rather than sending your original. I have done this.

Many Korean consulates will not stamp your copies for official use unless they have ALREADY been notarized FIRST. And they'll need sealed transcript as well to do this.

Toronto has been doing it this way BEFORE the new regs came up. I have no idea how they do it now.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
expat2001



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Draz wrote:
expat2001 wrote:
What I failed to mention was that the RECRUITER NOW HAS MY BS AND my Education degree. I f I were to bail , i dont know how id get them back


The consulate does in fact need your original degree(s). All the guides around on applying for a visa have been clear on this. Why did you send your degree to the recruiter? Did he/she ask for it? The recruiter should have known better.


As for the recruter should have known better , I think you give recruiters far too much credit.They are second only to hogwon owners.Boht are idiots !
I didnt send the diplomas , I was in korea , and I left them with the recruiters as requested. The reason for this , was that I knew the rules were going to change and at the time I was led to believe that the recruter knew what they were doing.I should have known bettter
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
expat2001



Joined: 28 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Norith wrote:
Your recruiter doesn't care about you. Like the poster above stated, everyone who's job is directly tied to implementing the new E-2 changes will have no concrete information on how to make things run smoothly.

What document did the KC say that you needed to bring with you for the interview?

R.S. Refugee: When did you get the consulate to make a copy of your degree for you? I got a visa at the end of November, and the consulate in the U.S. made it pretty clear that there were no more Korean Consulates willing to provide that service. In July '07, Korea joined the Hague Convention, which means that Korea is supposed to accept notarized/apostilled documents instead of having to validate them through the KC.


Im suppose to bring my passport, a head shot picture and one copy of my sealed transcripts.
Im still worried , cause th KC didnt sound like they knew what they were doing as well. They seem a bit lazy. As I mentioned , they called me , but never e mailed me when they couldnt reach me by phone.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Job-related Discussion Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page 1, 2  Next
Page 1 of 2

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International