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Hanson
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 Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right vs When in Rome |
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Another thread (I am not popular at the local E-Mart http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=108751) had me thinking about an issue that seems to polarize us expats in Korea. Here's the context:
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I was in HomePlus last week and needed a decent hair dryer. I'm standing there looking at the 20-odd models they had on display when the male part of a couple elbowed me aside then pushed in front of me making room for his wife/gf. I was standing there for a few seconds in disbelief at such rudeness. When I came to my senses again I LOUDLY gave an exagerrated A-HEM!
Nothing.
A-HEM!
Both turn around with those rheumy cow-eyed looks we've all seen before. I explain I was standing there and he pushed me out of the way.
Confusion. (Got that "Who me?" look on his face).
Yes, YOU! Now move over! (gesture with my thumb to get moving) He mumbles under his breath about my manners. So I do exactly what he did to me: I elbowed him aside and stepped in front of him. How are my manners now? More Korean? Good, yes?
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Yes, YOU! Now move over! (gesture with my thumb to get moving) He mumbles under his breath about my manners. So I do exactly what he did to me: I elbowed him aside and stepped in front of him. How are my manners now? More Korean? Good, yes?
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Yes . As that old adage goes two wrongs make a right .
no...wait ... |
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Yes, YOU! Now move over! (gesture with my thumb to get moving) He mumbles under his breath about my manners. So I do exactly what he did to me: I elbowed him aside and stepped in front of him. How are my manners now? More Korean? Good, yes?
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Yes . As that old adage goes two wrongs make a right .
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What you meant to say, STUPID, is...
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do."
It's a fan favourite of the 45+ year old Korean children.
"When the 45 year old and older Korean children in Rome shove you, shove right back-do as the Romans do!"
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When faced with what we perceive as blatant rudeness, what's your response - ignore it and mutter to yourself (Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right) or push back (When in Rome, Do As the Romans)? |
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haute 4 teacher
Joined: 19 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, I can't help myself......
Two wongs don't make a white.
Get it! It's witty and applicable! |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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Guess again. 
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that guy
Joined: 29 Feb 2004
Location: long gone
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:51 am Post subject: |
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Korean children need to be corrected.
When 45+ year old child shoves you, or tries to shove you, I encourage everyone to do the noble and right thing-shove the old bag right back.
ps bring back the DON'T DO IT BOYZ thread! |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right vs When in Rome |
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| Hanson wrote: |
| When faced with what we perceive as blatant rudeness, what's your response - ignore it and mutter to yourself (Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right) or push back (When in Rome, Do As the Romans)? |
If we do as the Romans do, how exactly is that wrong? |
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kimchi_pizza
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Location: "Get back on the bus! Here it comes!"
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:11 am Post subject: |
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| I see problems in Korea like puke on the sidewalk after a Saturday night. I ignore it, step over it and keep on walk'n. As long as I don't step in puke (problems) and drag it with me for the duration then it's all good. 'Course I now have a strange little gait of lifting my right foot slightly higher than my left... |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: Re: Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right vs When in Rome |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Hanson wrote: |
| When faced with what we perceive as blatant rudeness, what's your response - ignore it and mutter to yourself (Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right) or push back (When in Rome, Do As the Romans)? |
If we do as the Romans do, how exactly is that wrong? |
Well, that's a little tricky to answer. I guess the short answer is: you know "wrong" when you see it.
I'll go on record as being more of a "When in Rome..." kind of guy. I don't always push back, depending on the situation, but I don't mind a little confrontation from time to time.
Your story reminded me of a time I was with my wife, looking at the subway map on a platform, when this adjoshi pushed me out of the way so he, and only he, could see the map.
I tapped him on the shoulder and asked him if he had any manners. He looked at me with a combination of bewilderment and annoyance. I angrily explained that we were there first, that he had pushed me out of his way and that it was rude. I did this in my broken Korean, with body language thrown in. He ended up giving me a very reluctant sorry. Good enough. |
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