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Rumple
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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 Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: UPDATE:Beginning the process to fight my hagwan over taxes |
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Hey gang,
I finished a contract in August, went to California for a couple months, then came back to a new job, and they are doing my tax settlement now, and I contacted my old hagwan to get my tax certificate, and there are discrepancies with my pay stubs. Basically, they claimed I made about a million won less than I actually did, and that I paid in about 500,000 won less than I actually did.
They were big pr1cks and I don't want them to learn where I am living (since it isn't that far away...one city over), but I do want to get my money.
Is it worth the hassle? I still have the same bank account so I can easily get records of my pay being deposited.
Advice is appreciated.
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spliff
Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: |
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Yes, nail their azzes! I would....  |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:05 am Post subject: |
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After fire-bombing the place, ask the guy/gal to ante up your cash WITH A N.T.S. Letter in hand.
I'm going through the same sort of thing with B.N.C. Action English.
Who am I to talk about such matters?
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 2:54 am Post subject: |
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| roch is right. You need to deal with this with righteous anger. Go to the Korean tax office with your contract, pay stubs, ARC, passport, and nail them. |
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Rumple
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 3:39 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the support.
Anyone actually been through this process? I'd like to know a little about what it is like. |
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moosehead
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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my first year here at the end of my contract i asked for my tax certificate and after several days of hemms and haws as to where it was - my director confessed she hadn't been paying my taxes and went beserk and physically attacked me - was quite the ordeal
the next 48 hours were hell - to say the least - but a visit to labor had her paying my salary airfare and a tax certificate as well as maybe 360,000 won she owed me - of course she hadn't been paying pension either
for 1 million won you are talking maybe 50,000 won difference - is it worth it to you? the stress and aggravation??
taxes won't be filed until may this year - the tax office probably won't be much help - they never have been for me - unless it's a lot of money and they weren't paying it in like they should have been
the thing is you DO need your tax certificate - that proves your taxes were paid properly as well as your pension - so that's what you need to concentrate on getting -
good luck |
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aloysha
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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I am going to ask for my tax certificate from the director today, or for the day I leave (contract finishes in a few weeks). Is it a form that the tax office sends to the director at their request ? What does it look like ?
I have a feeling that my director will feign ignorance or possibly chicken scratch a note stating taxes paid. |
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RJjr
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, at a hagwon. It was actually a very good place to work but there was a discrepancy on the taxes. Another American vociferously protested the tax overcharge. I was quieter, but everyone and their second cousin knew that I was flying home if the money wasn't included in the next paycheck. It was. |
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Rumple
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:14 am Post subject: |
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my first year here at the end of my contract i asked for my tax certificate and after several days of hemms and haws as to where it was - my director confessed she hadn't been paying my taxes and went beserk and physically attacked me - was quite the ordeal
the next 48 hours were hell - to say the least - but a visit to labor had her paying my salary airfare and a tax certificate as well as maybe 360,000 won she owed me - of course she hadn't been paying pension either
for 1 million won you are talking maybe 50,000 won difference - is it worth it to you? the stress and aggravation??
taxes won't be filed until may this year - the tax office probably won't be much help - they never have been for me - unless it's a lot of money and they weren't paying it in like they should have been
the thing is you DO need your tax certificate - that proves your taxes were paid properly as well as your pension - so that's what you need to concentrate on getting -
good luck |
Is this in response to me? I have my tax certificate in-hand. It says I earned 1,000,000 less than I really did, and it says they wthheld 500,000 less than they really did. As my tax liability is about 50,000, I should be getting that whole 500,000 PLUS what they reported withholding back. All in all, we're talking about $700. |
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Rumple
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:17 am Post subject: |
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I am going to ask for my tax certificate from the director today, or for the day I leave (contract finishes in a few weeks). Is it a form that the tax office sends to the director at their request ? What does it look like ?
I have a feeling that my director will feign ignorance or possibly chicken scratch a note stating taxes paid. |
It is a form with LOTS of little boxes, and amounts filled in at various places. It should have your total earnings for the year on it. It should also have how much they withheld. In the lower right corner it should have a red signature stamp from the owner. |
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georgewallas
Joined: 26 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: Which one? |
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Rumple, but what I think aloysha is asking for is the actual name [or the number] of the form.
To avoid a wise crack, there are 2 of them on the NTS site.
While we're at it, could you tell both of us when we're supposed to get it? |
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Rumple
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: Re: Which one? |
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Rumple, but what I think aloysha is asking for is the actual name [or the number] of the form.
To avoid a wise crack, there are 2 of them on the NTS site.
While we're at it, could you tell both of us when we're supposed to get it? |
I'd have to look up the name of the form.
If you are employed by the employer through the end of a year, you should get it at the end of the year. If you leave your job (for any reason), you should be given one on your last day. If you request it after the fact, they still have to give it to you. |
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aloysha
Joined: 18 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks Rumple. Good luck George, I hope it goes smoothly for you. |
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Rumple
Joined: 19 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Rumple wrote: |
| moosehead wrote: |
my first year here at the end of my contract i asked for my tax certificate and after several days of hemms and haws as to where it was - my director confessed she hadn't been paying my taxes and went beserk and physically attacked me - was quite the ordeal
the next 48 hours were hell - to say the least - but a visit to labor had her paying my salary airfare and a tax certificate as well as maybe 360,000 won she owed me - of course she hadn't been paying pension either
for 1 million won you are talking maybe 50,000 won difference - is it worth it to you? the stress and aggravation??
taxes won't be filed until may this year - the tax office probably won't be much help - they never have been for me - unless it's a lot of money and they weren't paying it in like they should have been
the thing is you DO need your tax certificate - that proves your taxes were paid properly as well as your pension - so that's what you need to concentrate on getting -
good luck |
Is this in response to me? I have my tax certificate in-hand. It says I earned 1,000,000 less than I really did, and it says they wthheld 500,000 less than they really did. As my tax liability is about 50,000, I should be getting that whole 500,000 PLUS what they reported withholding back. All in all, we're talking about $700. |
To be more specific, for those who aren't getting it (I reread and it looks confusing, a bit):
My hagwan said I made 17,000,000 won. In fact I made 18,100,000. They said they withheld 280,000 for taxes, and that my tax liability is 70,000, so I should be getting 210,000 back. In fact, they withheld around 780,000 won, so really, I should be getting 710,000 back, not 210,000.
Hope that's more clear.
Now, the only problem is, I can prove my pay after deductions (as this is what they deposited in my account), but I can not prove how much they deducted. The pay stubs have no identifying information on them (like the hagwan's name).
Do I still have a case? |
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zizi
Joined: 01 Dec 2007
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Rumple wrote: |
| aloysha wrote: |
I am going to ask for my tax certificate from the director today, or for the day I leave (contract finishes in a few weeks). Is it a form that the tax office sends to the director at their request ? What does it look like ?
I have a feeling that my director will feign ignorance or possibly chicken scratch a note stating taxes paid. |
It is a form with LOTS of little boxes, and amounts filled in at various places. It should have your total earnings for the year on it. It should also have how much they withheld. In the lower right corner it should have a red signature stamp from the owner. |
What if you can't get the signature stamp from the owner? I was overtaxed this year and unfortunately I'm the only FT at my job who will fight for this. I was thinking of waiting until February and saying I need it to file taxes at home. Is there anyway to go about this without causing drama but still get your refund? Any advice would be appreciated. I would rather just file and not have to fight about it beforehand, but I guess that is wishful thinking. |
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