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Korean Times...Quality Enlgish again

 
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semphoon



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Korean Times...Quality Enlgish again Reply with quote

Korean Times...Quality Enlgish

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/art/2008/01/181_17379.html

Doesn't anyone proof read this? Especially an article discussing "Enlgish" education.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A little funny, yes. The KH and KT should be properly referred to as PR pamphlets, not actual newspapers.
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just another day



Joined: 12 Jul 2007
Location: Living with the Alaskan Inuits!!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Korean Times...


actually in english, it is Korea Times. Not KoreaN times... Laughing
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semphoon



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just another day wrote:
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Korean Times...


actually in english, it is Korea Times. Not KoreaN times... Laughing


actually in english, it is THE Korea Times Surprised Wink

My baddy...The Korea Times
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browneyedgirl



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which one of these is not like the other?


"Yes, I�m a teacher from New Zealand.�
�Well, I�m a teacher from Korean.�
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dirty_scraps83



Joined: 02 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

browneyedgirl wrote:
Which one of these is not like the other?


"Yes, I�m a teacher from New Zealand.�
�Well, I�m a teacher from Korean.�


is that a particular district of Seoul or group of hagwons?

those numbers seem really low
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So because of the strict screening process the gov't instituted, SMOE has to resort to hiring non-native speaking foreigners to teach English?

Granted, there are many who can do it, but I think alot of parents will be turned off by the idea that their child will be learning pronunciation from a Filippino or an Indian, or even a Nigerian.....

I am not trying to sound racist, but I feel that the article is trying to say that the Korean education ministry wants to 3D-nize the industry so they can hire people who would accept low payment and taking orders from Koreans without question

Those numbers seem to be the number of teachers from districts in Kangnam (south of the river) rather than all of Seoul...
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lastat06513 wrote:
So because of the strict screening process the gov't instituted, SMOE has to resort to hiring non-native speaking foreigners to teach English?

Granted, there are many who can do it, but I think alot of parents will be turned off by the idea that their child will be learning pronunciation from a Filippino or an Indian, or even a Nigerian.....

I am not trying to sound racist, but I feel that the article is trying to say that the Korean education ministry wants to 3D-nize the industry so they can hire people who would accept low payment and taking orders from Koreans without question

Those numbers seem to be the number of teachers from districts in Kangnam (south of the river) rather than all of Seoul...


As my cohost notes, it's hard enough for Australians to get teaching jobs because they're not "english" enough. What makes anyone think the tuition paying parents are going to want Indian or Filipinos?
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I see a trend at public schools in Gyeonggi province to hire increasing numbers of South Africans.

Parents don't have as much direct clout at public schools - as do politicians.

After they've driven out many North Americans by the latest sweeping regulations they can work toward hiring a majority of South Africans and steadily reduce salaries.

Or not. - South Africans tend to speak so fast that it would take longer for Korean teachers to learn English speaking skills from them, which would hinder their stated goal - to obviate the need for any more foreign teachers in Korea...
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are Zuid Afrikaaners exempted from the new regs?

I think this is one of the many "ideas" being floated around to show that Korea could do without NS teachers....

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Parents don't have as much direct clout at public schools - as do politicians.


I beg to differ......parents have alot of power. When there were disparities in the CSATs, the parents were the ones that went on the warpath to have them corrected. And it were parental influence that had several educational ministers resign from their post.

Yet, I have to bow to the fact that considering the current xenophobic mood now prevalent in Korea, I do see more non-native speaking teachers working there, not because they might be more profficient in teaching, not because they will accept alower salary than high-paying westerners, but because it is Korea and they can do it......sad......
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