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ajuma
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!
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| Apparently this is something new. I think it has something to do with something I remember reading when all of this first came about. It was something about if you've been in Korea more than 9 or 10 months with the same employer, they can vouch for you. This MAY be what this is...or maybe not. All I know is that you need this document to change employers even if your contract is finished and you're changing your place of employment. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 5:13 am Post subject: |
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| ajuma wrote: |
| Apparently this is something new. I think it has something to do with something I remember reading when all of this first came about. It was something about if you've been in Korea more than 9 or 10 months with the same employer, they can vouch for you. This MAY be what this is...or maybe not. All I know is that you need this document to change employers even if your contract is finished and you're changing your place of employment. |
Sounds good, though. Probably has to do with what they were saying about making it more flexible for teachers who are teaching in Korea. Can't remember exactly what they said, but it was mentioned along with the announcement of the new regulations.
Means that people who want to change employers don't have to leave the country and come back again and that criminal checks and health checks can be done in Korea.
Wow. I don't have to extend with my current employer on March 1st. I could get a job NOW and have it all taken care of. Pretty sweet. |
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greedy_bones
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
Location: not quite sure anymore
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
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By "changing jobs" I meant that my contract will expire on February 28/29 and my new contract will begin on March 1 with a different school. I'm assuming that the same would hold true if you were changing schools mid-contract...but you know what they say about assuming!!
The info I got came straight from Daejon immigration to my new employer. Seemed to have been correct. They didn't ask for any other documents besides those stated in my original post. |
Basically, you extended your sojourn with your current school, got an LOR and a transfer of your sojourn to another school with a new contract. Therefore it seems that you can stay at the new school for exactly a year from the date you extended your visa at your current school.
Your sojourn will expire before the end of your one-year contract expires witht the new school. Am I right? |
Nope. Just checked the ARC and it expires 2/28/09.
Edit: I'm not sure if what in the past we've called a LOR is the same as what they are asking for now, which is called "Agreement of Transferring". It SOUNDS the same, but..... |
I'm confused. When your current contract expires there's nothing to transfer. So the only thing I can think that you did was to transfer before your current sojourn expires. Then you'd be with the new school and have a year left on your sojour that was originally with the current employer having been transferred to your new employer. But when you can only extend for a year from the date you extend, how is it possible to extend now, January 17th, and be ok until February 28th the next year?
I guess it has nothing to do with extensions. Anyone can change sponsors/employers anytime before their current sojourn ends? Or maybe 2 months before? You just tell immi that you're going to work for another school when your current contract ends? If that's so, what the hell use is a transfer. There's nothing to transfer. Your sojourn ends and you sign on with another school.
I was under the impression that when you extend, you extend from the date you extend. Not from a later date. Are there exceptions made?
Still confused. |
Even though your visa will expire before your contract does, it's cool. You just extend for another month or two before your renewed contract expires. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| greedy_bones wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| ajuma wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
| ajuma wrote: |
By "changing jobs" I meant that my contract will expire on February 28/29 and my new contract will begin on March 1 with a different school. I'm assuming that the same would hold true if you were changing schools mid-contract...but you know what they say about assuming!!
The info I got came straight from Daejon immigration to my new employer. Seemed to have been correct. They didn't ask for any other documents besides those stated in my original post. |
Basically, you extended your sojourn with your current school, got an LOR and a transfer of your sojourn to another school with a new contract. Therefore it seems that you can stay at the new school for exactly a year from the date you extended your visa at your current school.
Your sojourn will expire before the end of your one-year contract expires witht the new school. Am I right? |
Nope. Just checked the ARC and it expires 2/28/09.
Edit: I'm not sure if what in the past we've called a LOR is the same as what they are asking for now, which is called "Agreement of Transferring". It SOUNDS the same, but..... |
I'm confused. When your current contract expires there's nothing to transfer. So the only thing I can think that you did was to transfer before your current sojourn expires. Then you'd be with the new school and have a year left on your sojour that was originally with the current employer having been transferred to your new employer. But when you can only extend for a year from the date you extend, how is it possible to extend now, January 17th, and be ok until February 28th the next year?
I guess it has nothing to do with extensions. Anyone can change sponsors/employers anytime before their current sojourn ends? Or maybe 2 months before? You just tell immi that you're going to work for another school when your current contract ends? If that's so, what the hell use is a transfer. There's nothing to transfer. Your sojourn ends and you sign on with another school.
I was under the impression that when you extend, you extend from the date you extend. Not from a later date. Are there exceptions made?
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Even though your visa will expire before your contract does, it's cool. You just extend for another month or two before your renewed contract expires. |
What? I already know what an extension is. Read the thread. |
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fruitcake
Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Location: shinchon
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| Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| just got back from immi, extended my visa, good til feb 2009, no additional docs needed...done with this nonsense. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| fruitcake wrote: |
| just got back from immi, extended my visa, good til feb 2009, no additional docs needed...done with this nonsense. |
Yeah, I'm going to switch employers. Also can be done. Already talked to my boss about it. Then I'll be done with it.
I'm not going to extend at my current job. 3 years is enough. Thing is, I have to find something that pays me more. I'm making 2.7 with virtually no stress, administration, 7 hr, no split schedule, etc. Easy as pie.
Hmm.
My boss said he'd look around, but he'll probably want to get out of paying the plane ticket or something.
Next contract will probably be my last year here. |
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jacob7207
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: What the f? |
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I just came from Immigration with my boss two weeks ago. Extended my visa for another year with a raise thrown in as well as a few other f***ed up perks, like a car and bills paid... No problems incurred. No health check, no CBC. I guess it's okay then. Nobody will know about those thai boys I have hidden in my closet and I can roam free as a pedo in this kiddie paradise for another year. Excellent.
Seriously. In regards to the new procedures, there are sooooo many confused people on here. What's the deal? I am getting confused just reading through all these testimonials of confused people on here. My brain can't handle it. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:53 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I got through Immigration (in Suwon) and they apparently accepted my online-CRC and notarized affidavit from the U.S. Embassy.
However, I was only extending sojourn with the same school - and they rushed processing my application because of my hospital appointment.
I had #488 and at 4pm they were only in the low 300s. When I mentioned to a Korean professional guy that I might be late he (after verifying my appointment) informed an Immigration clerk, who processed me in about a minute... |
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Ut videam
Joined: 07 Dec 2007
Location: Pocheon-si, Gyeonggi-do
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| Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Well, I got through Immigration (in Suwon) and they apparently accepted my online-CRC and notarized affidavit from the U.S. Embassy.
However, I was only extending sojourn with the same school - and they rushed processing my application because of my hospital appointment.
I had #488 and at 4pm they were only in the low 300s. When I mentioned to a Korean professional guy that I might be late he (after verifying my appointment) informed an Immigration clerk, who processed me in about a minute... |
Hmmm... I guess the question of whether KImmi will accept the online CRC with consular-notarized affidavit is still open. Since you were only extending your sojourn, you didn't need the CRC at all�not unless you had extended after March 15th. |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Well, aside from Immigration's policy, I was told by my Korean teacher liason with GEPIC that I had to provide a CRC to satisfy the Gyeonggi-do Ministry of Education requirements.
According to her understanding (explained by GEPIC officials to Korean co-teachers convened at Everland) their policy is that only teachers directly hired by GEPIC are exempt from providing the CRCs - not those who got public school jobs through other recruiters.
If that's really the case, it would be a moot point if Immigration doesn't make such distinctions (though my Korean co-teacher may have photocopied my CRC and submitted it to Gyeonggi-do officials...)
Anyway, my clerk was all-business as he quickly looked through all my papers without comment and directed me to pay the cashier... |
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Merlyn
Joined: 08 Dec 2004
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Well, aside from Immigration's policy, I was told by my Korean teacher liason with GEPIC that I had to provide a CRC to satisfy the Gyeonggi-do Ministry of Education requirements.
According to her understanding (explained by GEPIC officials to Korean co-teachers convened at Everland) their policy is that only teachers directly hired by GEPIC are exempt from providing the CRCs - not those who got public school jobs through other recruiters.
If that's really the case, it would be a moot point if Immigration doesn't make such distinctions (though my Korean co-teacher may have photocopied my CRC and submitted it to Gyeonggi-do officials...)
Anyway, my clerk was all-business as he quickly looked through all my papers without comment and directed me to pay the cashier... |
That was nice of you to prepare everything, but you did more than you had too. Well at least you'll know for next time. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Rteacher wrote: |
Well, aside from Immigration's policy, I was told by my Korean teacher liason with GEPIC that I had to provide a CRC to satisfy the Gyeonggi-do Ministry of Education requirements.
According to her understanding (explained by GEPIC officials to Korean co-teachers convened at Everland) their policy is that only teachers directly hired by GEPIC are exempt from providing the CRCs - not those who got public school jobs through other recruiters.
If that's really the case, it would be a moot point if Immigration doesn't make such distinctions (though my Korean co-teacher may have photocopied my CRC and submitted it to Gyeonggi-do officials...)
Anyway, my clerk was all-business as he quickly looked through all my papers without comment and directed me to pay the cashier... |
I was told by my recruiter that I need to supply all the documents as if I was applying for a new visa even though I'm just transfering my E2 to a public school. Anyone know why this is so? |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| nope. you'd better call Immi on your own to be sure. |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 4:07 am Post subject: |
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| nope. you'd better call Immi on your own to be sure. |
Ya immi said that I don't need any more documents either so what should I do? |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| can you conference-call? put immi in touch with your recruiter? |
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