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[plus99]

Id like to hear some opinions of why anyone would take the criminal background checks seriously.

If statewide checks are acceptable, all someone with a conviction needs to do is go to another state and have it done there. Of course, when you put up job ads that say "criminal background check required," you will definately scare off a certain percentage of the population who have questionable histories.

But anyone with any kind of knowledge of the system can get around these requirements, if I am understanding the immigration requirements correctly.

And in the end this is, in some ways, a good thing. There should be ways of stopping sex offenders from being around kids. No one argues with that. But to categorize these situations as identical to those of people with non-violent (say marijuana) convictions is totally idiotic and not helpful in any way. If you want to know if people are using drugs around the kids, a better method is to give drug tests.

Mostly, id like to know if there are any challenges to the assertion that a criminal could just drive to another state and bypass all these requirements.

[esetters21]

[plus99]

I dont understand what you mean. What would stop someone from putting in any US address? If you apply for the check from south korea you might not even have a US address. I think what is asked for is your last residence but what is to stop a person from claiming it was in any state, even if its not where your drivers license, for example, was issued? I think you could choose a state at random and use it.

[Bibbitybop]

OP, I agree with a lot of your points. An important thing to consider is that convicted felons (violent criminals, rapists, child abusers) aren't granted visas from the USA. I'm sure other Western nations have similar rules. And of course, the accused pedophile Christopher Patrick Neil didn't have a criminal background.

So the worst you are going to get outside of the USA are people with misdemeanors. Even those with "bad" misdemeanors are going to be able to get into Korea by finding loopholes in laws and background checks. Good teachers with minor infractions are going to be banned as they don't try to find the loopholes that criminals look for.

Another thing, if a person can't get an E-2 visa, but wants to teacher here, that person is simply going to work illegally on tourist visa.

Finally, on a side note, kyopos (non-Korean citizens that have at least one Korean parent from Korea) aren't being subjected to the new rules or back ground checks. That's insane, but purely Korean to trust Korean blood. I have some friends back in the USA that are of Korean descent. Some of them have been mixed up in some bad things and have convictions, but Korea will never know if they want to come teach here.

[plus99]

Interesting, I didnt know felons couldn't get visas out of the US.

[jajdude]

These requirements are enough to drive some good people away. They show an ugly mentality that is a drag to be around anyway.

[esetters21]

[plus99]

The drug convictions are a joke, so is the scruitiny of simple arrests which didnt lead to a conviction. Anything sexual or violent in nature is totally acceptable and should be looked at but if this is true about not being able to leave a country with this type of conviction, the whole thing just seems redundant.

I am assuming that since no one is saying that this buisness is incorrect about just going to another state, we are agreeing that this is a huge loophole?

[DHC]

If you are required to have a fingerprint check through the FBI then it won't matter what personal info. you give. I'm in the US for a few days and had my check back in 24 hours. Apostille was a short walk in visit.

[Bibbitybop]

[moosehead]

[plus99]

[boyne11]

[plus99]

30 years ago?


why are you hanging out with 70 year olds?


oh wait, mah boy orville redinbacher just told me that wasnt a nice thing to say. im sorry.

[Netz]