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Foreigners See Koreans as Irrational, Unethical: Survey
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lush72



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 4:48 pm    Post subject: Foreigners See Koreans as Irrational, Unethical: Survey Reply with quote

I am still laughing.... Wink

Why dont I get chances to take surveys like this?!?!


From Yonhap News:

SEOUL, Nov. 15 (Yonhap) -- A majority of foreign residents in South Korea believe Koreans lack a sense of ethics and rationality, according to a survey Saturday.

The survey on 644 foreigners living here found that on a scale of 1-7, 7 indicating the most positive answer, the respondents gave an average of 2.8 on Korean society's general level of rationality and awareness of public interests


http://www.yonhapnews.net/Engnews/20031115/300100000020031115102353E3.html


another take on the survey:
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/nation/200311/kt2003111618540511990.htm
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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehe I needed a laugh Laughing
Hopefully one day they will actually act on some of these surveys.. IF they want to be the 'hub of asia' or whatever.. if the country wants to be treated like a poor man's Japan, I guesss they'll just ignore it all.
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Arthur Fonzerelli



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure Koreans see Foreigners as condescending and patronizing...
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peppermint



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I want to know is, who did they ask? The average person here doesn't feel that way (or wouldn't admit it because they are afraid of the pc police)
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Leslie Cheswyck



Joined: 31 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2003 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arthur Fonzerelli wrote:
I'm sure Koreans see Foreigners as condescending and patronizing...


Of course we are, dear.
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
What I want to know is, who did they ask? The average person here doesn't feel that way (or wouldn't admit it because they are afraid of the pc police)

I think the average person here does feel that way. You might be right about why some wouldn't admit it.

Then again, this question could be interpreted in different ways.
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matko



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Arthur Fonzerelli wrote:
I'm sure Koreans see Foreigners as condescending and patronizing...


As a gyopo, how do you feel?
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kylehawkins2000



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the risk of sounding racist and ethnocentric I must admit that there have been many occassions when I found Koreans to be irrational. They often seem to accept whatever is the status quo or accepted norm without ever rationalizing it. Electric Fan Death? Kimchi and Garlic fighting off Sars? Girls skirts get shorter when the economy worsens? Where does this crap come from? And why do so many people accept it without rationalizing it?

Hell, irrationality is not limited to Korea I know....but really....sometimes I just shake my head....
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kylehawkins2000


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Girls skirts get shorter when the economy worsens?


The economic prognosticators in the U.S. often point to fashion changes, such as skirt length, as indicators of the ecomony. But usually in the opposite direction: short-skirted flappers in the roaring twenties, long dowdy dresses in the depression thirties, mini skirts in the "butter and bombs" sixties, maxis in the fuel-crisis seventies. It may seem irrational, but there is a correlation.

Short skirts and hard times? Put on a happy face? Can't afford fabric? These things are cyclical, and fashion is the last place to look for rationality.
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kylehawkins2000



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps there is a relation when looking at the larger scopes of economic eras but I've heard this recently connected to very short term economic fluctuations......

Did Korean women stop/start wearing shorter skirts during the 1997 economic crisis?
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kylehawkins2000 wrote:
Did Korean women stop/start wearing shorter skirts during the 1997 economic crisis?

There were definetely wearing them in 1996 and the summer of 1997 before the economic crisis. I was living in Busan then and another new teacher came in and kept remarking how all of his students, every girl in the street and every female looked like a hooker. (They definetely weren't hookers.. still conservative as always).. but their clothing before IMF certainly consisted of A LOT of miniskirts and extremely tight jeans.

Fortunately I'd just left before IMF happened.. but that doesn't help to see the correlation. I know when I came back in 2000 it seemed the miniskirts had been long gone and collegiate long plaid skirts with blouse seemed to be the rage..
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I"ve yet to run across a hogwan director that was rational or ethical.
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kylehawkins2000



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.....ditto on that account UlsanChris

But hey....you don't work for hogwans......you work in Tokyo for Hyundai right? How would you know?
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ulsanchris



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have my sources.
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kylehawkins2000 wrote:
Girls skirts get shorter when the economy worsens? Where does this crap come from? And why do so many people accept it without rationalizing it?

Hell, irrationality is not limited to Korea I know....but really....sometimes I just shake my head....


Hey, shorter skirts when the economy is bad is PERFECTLY RATIONAL!

It means they need to use less material for the same priced skirt, therefore, saving money.

The thing that angers me is when I buy a fan or something for my house, and the cord on it is about 20 cm long. ARGH!

Same concept.
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