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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: Immigration to review new E2 policy due to teacher shortages |
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| A representative from the Korea Association of Hagwons (한국학원총연합회) said, �the quality of the teachers is a good reason to hire them, but with the decreasing supply of native-speaking instructors, it�s difficult for lower-income hagwons to manage their costs. The Association plans to recommend reforms to the system.� |
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| A representative from the Ministry of Justice immigration office said, �we are aware that hagwons are experiencing a labor shortage because of the system in place to protect students. Eventually, we plan to monitor the system and collect reactions to it, and examine ways to improve it.� |
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roknroll
Joined: 29 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Eventually, we plan to monitor the system and collect reactions to it, and examine ways to improve it.�
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EVENTUALLY....   [/quote] |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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Great. Maybe they can post some definite rules by maybe 2053?
They should have had research done and EXACT instructions on their web site about a month ago. Now they are going to change... change what? |
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hari seldon
Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:04 pm Post subject: Re: Immigration to review new E2 policy due to teacher short |
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| chronicpride wrote: |
A representative from the Korea Association of Hagwons said, “the quality of the teachers is a good reason to hire them, but with the decreasing supply of native-speaking instructors, it’s difficult for lower-income hagwons to manage their costs. The Association plans to recommend reforms to the system.”... |
There are simple solutions to the shortages which the Korean Hagwon Association has conveniently ignored: guarantee payment of taxes and lawful benefits (like pension and health insurance), offer more vacation time, and boost wages |
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blade
Joined: 30 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 9:23 pm Post subject: Re: Immigration to review new E2 policy due to teacher short |
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| hari seldon wrote: |
| There are simple solutions to the shortages which the Korean Hagwon Association has conveniently ignored: guarantee payment of taxes and lawful benefits (like pension and health insurance), offer more vacation time, and boost wages |
They could also make it so that labour law was to be written and legally binding in English not Korean. Japan does this so I don't see any reason why Korea can't do the same thing as well. |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:58 pm Post subject: Re: Immigration to review new E2 policy due to teacher short |
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| hari seldon wrote: |
| chronicpride wrote: |
A representative from the Korea Association of Hagwons said, �the quality of the teachers is a good reason to hire them, but with the decreasing supply of native-speaking instructors, it�s difficult for lower-income hagwons to manage their costs. The Association plans to recommend reforms to the system.�... |
There are simple solutions to the shortages which the Korean Hagwon Association has conveniently ignored: guarantee payment of taxes and lawful benefits (like pension and health insurance), offer more vacation time, and boost wages |
exactly |
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marlow
Joined: 06 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: Immigration to review new E2 policy due to teacher short |
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| KWhitehead wrote: |
| hari seldon wrote: |
| chronicpride wrote: |
A representative from the Korea Association of Hagwons said, �the quality of the teachers is a good reason to hire them, but with the decreasing supply of native-speaking instructors, it�s difficult for lower-income hagwons to manage their costs. The Association plans to recommend reforms to the system.�... |
There are simple solutions to the shortages which the Korean Hagwon Association has conveniently ignored: guarantee payment of taxes and lawful benefits (like pension and health insurance), offer more vacation time, and boost wages |
exactly |
Vacation time and wages are biggies. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:23 am Post subject: |
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Surprise, surprise. The hagwon owners are complaining. Did anyone not see this coming? (Immigration didn't, I guess...)
It totally reminds me of the car seat laws that got canned after public outcry...
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Car seat requirement in Korea is short-lived
"I heard it is good to use a car seat and actually I do have one, but I don't use it because he behaves well in the car. My friends also don't use one because it is difficult to set up and the car seat takes a lot of space," she said.
On June 1, the government did just that. New transportation laws required children under the age of 6 to use a car seat with the seat belt on. Failure to do so meant a fine of 30,000 won ($31), the National Police Agency announced. Parents complained and the next day, the police agency dropped the plan.
"We don't have to do what foreigners do in their countries. We have our own way to take care of babies," another posting at the agency's Web site said.... South Korea has the highest rate of children under 14 years old killed in traffic accidents among the OECD nations. by Kim Soe-jung, JoongAng Daily (August 07, 2006)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200608/06/200608062231105209900090409041.html |
The article is no longer there, but I swear these quotes are accurate. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:55 am Post subject: |
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| The Hogwan Association represents the worst of the hogwan owners. Don't believe anything they say. |
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Suwoner10
Joined: 10 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| Hanson wrote: |
Surprise, surprise. The hagwon owners are complaining. Did anyone not see this coming? (Immigration didn't, I guess...)
It totally reminds me of the car seat laws that got canned after public outcry...
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Car seat requirement in Korea is short-lived
"I heard it is good to use a car seat and actually I do have one, but I don't use it because he behaves well in the car. My friends also don't use one because it is difficult to set up and the car seat takes a lot of space," she said.
On June 1, the government did just that. New transportation laws required children under the age of 6 to use a car seat with the seat belt on. Failure to do so meant a fine of 30,000 won ($31), the National Police Agency announced. Parents complained and the next day, the police agency dropped the plan.
"We don't have to do what foreigners do in their countries. We have our own way to take care of babies," another posting at the agency's Web site said.... South Korea has the highest rate of children under 14 years old killed in traffic accidents among the OECD nations. by Kim Soe-jung, JoongAng Daily (August 07, 2006)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200608/06/200608062231105209900090409041.html |
The article is no longer there, but I swear these quotes are accurate. |
Reminds me. I was witness to a baby's death last year. The mother was strapping her baby into the back-sling that they do here like Africans, and the lady was just leaning forward in the seat with the kid on her back. Just as she was trying to get up, the bus slammed on the breaks, sending the lady flying back into her seat--unfortunately the baby's head broke her fall between the bus seat arm-rest (metal bar). I can still hear the sound of the head crushing against the seat.
They do have their own ways, I'll give them that... |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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If I may, how about being honest in their dealings with Foreign E.F.L. Instructors?
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: Re: Immigration to review new E2 policy due to teacher short |
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| A representative from the Ministry of Justice immigration office said, �we are aware that hagwons are experiencing a labor shortage because of the system in place to protect students. |
A system that doesn't protect shit. |
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midwest
Joined: 25 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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If I may, how about being honest in their dealings with Foreign E.F.L. Instructors?
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I had to leave Korea because of a bad teaching situation. This did not have to happen if the Korean government provided teachers with legal protection. Treat us better, pay us better, and give us greater protection from unscrupulous school owners. |
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expat2001
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: |
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| we also need protection from recruiters , they are just as bad as the owners |
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Insidejohnmalkovich
Joined: 11 Jan 2008
Location: Pusan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:55 pm Post subject: |
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| The irony is that the bureaucrats made these new rules to screw over the private sector education system, but the the public schools will no less feel the bite of the labour shortage and increased salary demands. (And please do not pretend that this politically motivated policy has anything to do with protecting children.) |
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