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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:13 pm    Post subject: my god! i'm a vegetarian! Reply with quote

my god! i'm a vegetarian.
never meant for this to happen. what did happen? got tired of getting treated poorly at local restaurants. started prepping more of my own food. fresh meat is not cheap. so, i bought fruits (boxes of oranges are super cheap now) and greens and veggies. now, i look back at the last two weeks or so and realize i can't remeber the last time i ate meat. maybe it was the slice of sausage in the spaghetti from that corner place that uses catsup for their spaghetti.

but...now that i realize this i'll probably be at McDeath's choking down a BigN' Nasty before sundown.
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: my god! i'm a vegetarian! Reply with quote

mistermasan wrote:
choking down a Big N' Nasty before sundown.


What happens in Korea, stays in Korea.
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littlelisa



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: my god! i'm a vegetarian! Reply with quote

mistermasan wrote:
my god! i'm a vegetarian.
never meant for this to happen. what did happen? got tired of getting treated poorly at local restaurants. started prepping more of my own food. fresh meat is not cheap. so, i bought fruits (boxes of oranges are super cheap now) and greens and veggies. now, i look back at the last two weeks or so and realize i can't remeber the last time i ate meat. maybe it was the slice of sausage in the spaghetti from that corner place that uses catsup for their spaghetti.

but...now that i realize this i'll probably be at McDeath's choking down a BigN' Nasty before sundown.


Hah! I became a vegetarian without realizing it too. Except for me it was three months without realizing it, and then I stuck to it once I did. I felt better anyway, and I realized that the not eating meat was largely because I don't like the taste of meat at all (yes, this is a funny thing to realize all of a sudden). If you've been enjoying the food you've been eating and you haven't been feeling badly, why care? Not to say that you shouldn't eat meat if it were in front of you, but why go out of your way to eat some?
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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but...what is there not delicious about bulgogi?
yes, i am contemplating breaking my fast but am hard pressed of an option here worthy the honor.
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistermasan wrote:
but...what is there not delicious about bulgogi?

What indeed? And, of course there is galbi. There is always galbi ...

Barbecued meat in restaurants are relatively quite cheap in this country, at least compared to back where I come from. One place in my neighborhood sells the beef galbi for about five and a half bucks American, and a couple of pork galbi places have been having a price war to see who will go belly-up first by selling it at $2 a serving. Took some friends and we ended up spending more on soju than food.

I've seen a few of these discussions about dietary choices, and this one so far is unique in two ways. Omnivores don't always consider what their meal will be in terms of categories, but rather what they feel like at a particular moment.

1) Usually vegetarianism is a conscious choice, but the OP says he just forgot to eat any meat for a while. I think this has happened to me from time to time.

2) Someone else has said she just doesn't like the taste of meat. I have a couple of friends who have made a similar claim and I respect it. Tastes vary, and it's conceivable that some people would dislike the flavor - I have another friend who doesn't like eggs, and someone else (believe it or not) doesn't like chocolate. I even met one Korean student who told me in private that she doesn't like kimchi. ("Please don't tell anyone, " she said.)

My own feeling has always been that one gains little by limiting the scope of one's possible experiences, culinary or otherwise, for any other reason than prudence or personal inclination. I think this goes much more so when living in another country and professing a wish to learn and experience culture and folkways of people and places far from one's home - if you approach such a task with a set of conditions brought in from outside that is unlikely among even some significant group of people from that cultural millieu, I think it implies a certain arrogance. You are saying that you know more than other people, and any healthy mind ought to contain just enough humility to realize the fallacy of that line.

People who choose vegetarianism as an ethical lifestyle are welcome to it, but the arrogance I mentioned above means that in a very large percentage of such cases they are not willing for me to be welcome to my own choices.

Because they know what is right, and they know more than me, you see.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reminds me of the great sirloin steak I had at Outback's last Sunday

and that it's been over a month since I've made chicken paprikash

excuse me: I have some shopping to do
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Kimchi Cowboy



Joined: 17 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 or 3 times a week I take a salad to school - carrots, broccoli, cucumber, peppers, and the like - and dig into it (with chopsticks, of course!) during recess. At least once a week I get a kid running up to me and asking, "Teacher! Are you a vegetarian?!?!"

My answer of, "I'm eating vegetables, but I'm not a vegetarian," somehow leaves them VERY confused. Laughing
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unnecessarily killing animals should not merely be an ethical choice - it should be against the law.

When I'm finally elected President of the U.S. (maybe in another lifetime or two ...) all slaughterhouses and factory farming of animals would be outlawed.

More employment opportunities could become available in organic farming and in creating an abuse-free dairy industry.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Unnecessarily killing animals should not merely be an ethical choice - it should be against the law.

When I'm finally elected President of the U.S. (maybe in another lifetime or two ...) all slaughterhouses and factory farming of animals would be outlawed.

More employment opportunities could become available in organic farming and in creating an abuse-free dairy industry.


You'll be the first one to moan when the surplus of cows start spilling onto the motorway, walking in front of your car. Very Happy

All those pigs on the loose in the countryside! Shocked What use is a pig to anyone bar a bloody good breakfast?

Pigs are anto social, massive and couldn't stop a burglar robbing your house if your life depended on it.

I like the status quo as it is Cool The again I'm not a Hereford bull!
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kermo



Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to the club.
No, literally-- join the club. Announcements are posted at http://seoulveggieclub.wordpress.com, and on the facebook group.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You can't kill a pig once it wears human clothes!" - Homer Simpson.

And I predict that "kermo" will become the first vegetarian woman Prime Minister of Canada (unless Kim Campbell was vegetarian...)
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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, you agree that abortion is a no-no as well?
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of course, if it's unnecessary killing.

Here's an article just focusing mainly on financial aspects of various vegetarian - and nonvegetarian - diets:
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/SavingandDebt/SaveMoney/GoVegetarianToSaveMoney.aspx
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rD.NaTas



Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Location: changwon

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
Unnecessarily killing animals should not merely be an ethical choice - it should be against the law.

When I'm finally elected President of the U.S. (maybe in another lifetime or two ...) all slaughterhouses and factory farming of animals would be outlawed.

More employment opportunities could become available in organic farming and in creating an abuse-free dairy industry.

i agree killing animals is wrong , do you mean to abolish all animal flesh eating by this dictatorship or just the slaughter house killing factories..im pretty sure forcefully choosing that sum one should be a vegan goes against free will
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
... all slaughterhouses and factory farming of animals would be outlawed.

More employment opportunities could become available in organic farming and in creating an abuse-free dairy industry.

My urban-dwelling 76-year-old father recently went dutch with the woman who sells him lottery tickets and they bought a cow together: my old dad went the hour-long drive out to the farm, paid $600 in all ($300 each), killed the cow himself and cut up the meat, though the farmer was willing thereafter to deliver the cuts, many of which sit in my dad's deep freeze for 2008 consumption.

Is that wrong?
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