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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:50 am Post subject: helicobacter pylori helpppppp |
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ok so i just got my test results and i have helicobacter pylori. the doctor wants to do an intestinal test...i really don't want it (i read you just get 2 weeks of antibiotics right? why do i need this test?) i'm going home in a month.....will i die if i dont get it :/
btw seriously i think everyone should get tested for this thing because aparently LOTS of people have it here and don't know about it |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:58 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm....how did the symptoms, if any, present? |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:01 am Post subject: |
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they didnt really i had a fever and my stomach hurt (stomach flu going around) so i got blood and urine test. none of those had anything to do with it...you wouldn't know you have it unless you get tested. |
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gojulie
Joined: 08 Jun 2007
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:02 am Post subject: |
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isn't H Pylori the bacteria that gives you stomach ulcers? If so, some people have them for years without knowing or treating them. I could be way off base here, so check webmd or something. |
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:07 am Post subject: |
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yeah thats the one but i def just got it HERE because i had a physical b4 i got here and nothing was wrong with me. Still don't get why i have to have some weird stomach test now :/ wish somebody that had it would shine some light on the matter. |
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sistersarah
Joined: 03 Jan 2004 Location: hiding out
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:12 am Post subject: |
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i heard that around 70% of adults here in korea have the bateria, compared to 10% of american adults.
it's because you can get it easily from other people, and everyone shares food, cups, sticks their spoons in the same soup, and stuff like that here.
that's all i know about it. i suspect i have it because i have terrible chronic stomach pains. i had a barium test at a radiologist and they saw nothing abnormal in my stomach though... i would get the test done here... no long waiting period and probably cheap. |
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billybrobby

Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: |
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Well, since wikipedia has made me a medical expert, I'll hazard a guess. No test for H. Pylori is 100% foolproof, but the endoscopy test is the most reliable. Certain antibiotic-resistant strains of the disease have been found, so maybe they're trying to use antibiotics only when they're very sure.
I lived with a tube down my throat for a couple weeks and it wasn't pleasant, but it wasn't horrible. I wouldn't worry too much about it. Stuff like that is mostly mental. (I know that sounds condescending, but I really think it's true) |
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SeoulShakin

Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Hey - I had the same thing.
Found it here, but likely had it for a while. It's the one that can cause ulcers. Luckily I didn't have any ulcers, so I just had antibiotics for two weeks, then a breath test to see if it was gone, and it was.
The internal test is likely to see if you do have an ulcer from it. If an ulcer is present, the treatment varies slightly. If there is no ulcer, the antibiotics do the trick. What kind of internal test do they want to do? I had to have an ultrasound, and a barium test (yucky) to check for ulcers. Once it was ruled out, I got the antibiotics.
Sucks to have it done, but it's good too. At least you'll know.
I had a physical before I left (mind you that was two years ago now) and I was fine, so I got it here. Likely from the sharing of everything, which sucks.
But once you are treated it's much better. My stomach pains disappeared, and I felt much better.
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buffygrrl1
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:37 am Post subject: |
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yeah they want to do the barium test...i really dont want it can't they just give me the antibiotics and i can check if im better at home? |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: Wonderland Really Cares About Their Teachers! |
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buffygrrl1 wrote: |
yeah thats the one :( but i def just got it HERE because i had a physical b4 i got here and nothing was wrong with me. Still don't get why i have to have some weird stomach test now :/ wish somebody that had it would shine some light on the matter. |
I got it in August of 2006 when I worked for the Wonderland group in Ansan. The doc down there told me and the school's manager that I likely got it from dirty water in Korea or from one of the local restaurants.
After being unable to go more than 30 minutes without using the toilet for about 8 days, I was threatened with a beating from Wonderland's manager, "Charlie" - a 32 year old local load who said that I should be able to "hold in" the bloody diarrhoea until the end of the work day. Anyway, two newbies from Canada finally told the guy that I should have been in hospital instead of a classroom.
"Tom", the mobbed-up owner of that franchise, who got his clock cleaned by a Kiwi employee named John two months previously, blamed me for not knowing how to detect tainted food or water. (Korean logic, eh?!)
By the way, John posted his account of this verifiable story about beating up his assinine Korean employer on Dave's in June, 2006.
The doctor gave me a blue-coloured fluid and some tablets. After two months, the attacks lessened to the point that I stopped ingesting the medication.
Severe bouts of stress, though, bring it all back. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: |
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Been in Asia for roughly 16 years (Thai & K-land) wonder if I should get tested although I don't have any problems w/ my stomach. From what I gleaned 80% of folks don't actually show any symptoms while having the infection....food for thought. |
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Roch
Joined: 24 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: Re: helicobacter pylori helpppppp |
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buffygrrl1 wrote: |
ok so i just got my test results and i have helicobacter pylori. the doctor wants to do an intestinal test...i really don't want it (i read you just get 2 weeks of antibiotics right? why do i need this test?) i'm going home in a month.....will i die if i dont get it :/
btw seriously i think everyone should get tested for this thing because aparently LOTS of people have it here and don't know about it |
Word!! (Sorry, Richard Krainium.) |
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SeoulShakin

Joined: 05 Jan 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:19 am Post subject: |
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As I said, if the ulcers are present, the treatment varies. So technically they SHOULD check to see if the ulcers are there. It's a necessary precaution.
And how can you check if you are better at home?????
Like someone said, most people don't even know if the bacteria is present in the first place, so even if you FEEL better, the bacteria may not be gone, and you'll just get sick again later. Doesn't sound so smart to me.
Yeah, the barium test isn't fun. I've had a barium test done twice in my life. The one they do here sucks cause it tastes terrible to swallow the barium, but it's MUCH more pleasant than a barium enema (had that too). If you don't know what that is, google it. Not so fun. So yeah, it sucks, but the barium test only lasts about 15 minutes or so, and you'll be guaranteed to get the correct treatment to get rid of it for good. |
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Gatsby
Joined: 09 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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This is very upsetting.
I've been noticing stomach problems, too.
I happen to have taken the test for helicobacter at a health fair, and it came back negative. So if I got it, it's a safe bet that I got it in Korea. From this idiotic custom of shared food.
The strain here is likely pretty resistant, given the idiotic way they administer antibiotics.
The correct treatment involves more than just antibiotics:
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Treatment usually involves a combination of antibiotics, acid suppressors, and stomach protectors. Antibiotic regimens recommended for patients may differ across regions of the world because different areas have begun to show resistance to particular antibiotics. |
http://digestive.niddk.nih.gov/ddiseases/pubs/hpylori/
The acid suppressors are needed because the bacteria thrives in the acid stomach. It essentially just laughs at the antibiotic, alone. But an alkaline stomach allows the antibiotics to kill the bacteria.
If you are not in pain and are staying in Korea, I doubt if treatment is worth the trouble, as you are likely to get reinfected. But if you are leaving, and the doctor will treat it correctly, it would be a good idea to get the treatment and get rid of it. It would also reduce the risk of transmitting it to others.
After treatment, make sure you get lots of active yogurt into your system. Best, make it fresh yourself. Yogurt with reuteri culture is especially effective. Try combining the yogurt with psyllium husks to carry the probiotics into your colon. The psyllium provides the fiber to make the probiotics work effectively in your colon. A ripe banana is also helpful for providing FOS to feed the probiotics. So: fresh yogurt, psyllium, and ripe banana. Not too difficult.
I'll tell you, between all the resistant bugs we are exposed to here in Korea, the inappropriate use of antibiotics, the doctors who do not even bother to take your temperature, and the unnecessary and possibly even dangerous drugs the doctors toss in the bag to look like they are doing something impressive, and now the helicobacter, if you don't need the money, really you should stay away from Korea. It's not worth it. No one here knows a rat's ass about epidemiology, beyond taking their shoes off when entering a building.
If you get any serious treatment here, ask the doctor to write down the names of all drugs he gives you, and their dosages. Get it in English. Some of the drugs I have been prescribed here were listed as no longer commonly prescribed because they are dangerous. These jokers they call doctors here can do some serious damage to your health.
Also, if you have stomach pains, stay away from NSAIDs or aspirin. These lower the body's production of protective prostaglandins, allowing for the erosion of the stomach lining. Even after two or three days, doctors can see microbleeding in the stomach using an endoscope when a person is taking NSAIDs.
And guess what? You know those little packets of pills the doctor prescribes for just about anything you go in for? Chances are he has thrown in NSAIDs, whether you need them or not. And if you get 10 days of pills, you will be taking 10 days of NSAIDs. If these are prescription strength NSAIDs, this length of use can be dangerous. Especially if you also have symptoms of a stomach ulcer. Do not take NSAIDs unless necessary, and be aware of the appropriate dose, and possible side effects. Look it up on the web. Get the doctor to tell you what he is prescribing and the dose (yeah, right.)
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I-am-me

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Hermit Kingdom
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Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:46 am Post subject: |
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I thought i was the only one with those symptoms!!! |
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