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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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 Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:05 pm Post subject: Britons are losing their grip on reality |
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according to a poll which shows nearly a quarter think Winston Churchill was a myth, while the majority reckon Sherlock Holmes was real.
The survey found that 47 per cent thought the 12th Century English King Richard the Lionheart was a myth.
And 23 per cent thought World War II prime minister Winston Churchill was made up.
The same percentage thought Crimean War nurse Florence Nightingale did not actually exist.
Three per cent thought Charles D!ckens, one of Britain's most famous writers, is a work of fiction himself.
Indian political leader Mahatma Gandhi and Battle of Waterloo victor the Duke of Wellington were also in the top 10 of people thought to be myths.
Meanwhile, 58 per cent thought Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's fictional detective Sherlock Holmes actually existed, and 33 per cent thought the same of WE Johns' fictional pilot and adventurer Biggles.
UKTV Gold television surveyed 3,000 people. - AFP
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/04/2153628.htm?section=justin |
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faster
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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This really isn't that surprising, given the state of the British education system:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7211958.stm
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McDonald's 'A-level' is launched
Fast-food giant McDonald's has become one of the first firms to offer its own nationally recognised qualifications.
It will offer a "basic shift manager" course, training staff in skills such as human resources and marketing.
The Qualifications and Curriculum Authority said the company had been approved to develop courses up to the equivalent of A-level standard.
The QCA will also allow Network Rail and Flybe to award qualifications based on their workplace training schemes.
'Exciting step'
David Fairhurst, senior vice-president and chief people officer from McDonald's, said it was "an important and exciting step" for the company.
"We want to ensure that our approach to recruitment, training, and development continues to create real opportunities for social mobility," he said.
Last year the company launched a campaign against the dictionary definition of a "McJob".
It said the definition as "an unstimulating low-paid job with few prospects" was insulting and out of date.
Network Rail will pilot its first qualification this year in "track engineering". It has been given permission to develop courses equivalent to GCSEs and A-levels.
Training commitment
Airline Flybe will develop its "airline trainer programme" later this year and courses will cover everything from engineering to cabin crew training.
Skills Secretary John Denham said: "It is right that we recognise and accredit employers that have shown a commitment to training and developing their staff.
"This is an important step towards ending the old divisions between company training schemes and national qualifications, something that will benefit employees, employers and the country as a whole."
Ken Boston, chief executive of the QCA, said the move recognised "employers' commitment to training".
He said: "We look forward to considering further applications from employers to have their valuable work-related learning programmes validated."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/education/7211958.stm
Published: 2008/01/27 15:41:49 GMT
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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| As time goes by, I am inclined to think that Margaret Thatcher was also a figment of my imagination. I mean, how could something so terrible have really existed? |
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| Perhaps 2500 of them are the temp. workers from E. Europe... |
(There were 3000 surveyed in the poll)
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What a load of rubbish. Next thing you know a survey will come out of the UK declaring Posh Spice as supremely talented...
ok, maybe that's stretching it a bit. |
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Dome Vans
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I'm always on the side of knocking Britain for being a dump, and can only see it getting worse. But I would be a bit apprehensive about a survey of
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| UKTV Gold television surveyed 3,000 people. - AFP |
What an awful cross section of house wives and the jobless they must have got for that one. How many off those could actually spell "Myth" correctly? Let alone know what it means. "Is myth a new deodorant from Lynx?"
I would still choose that level of stupidity over this one:
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The poll of 2,455 U.S. adults from Nov 7 to 13 found that 82 percent of those surveyed believed in God, a figure unchanged since the question was asked in 2005.
It further found that 79 percent believed in miracles, 75 percent in heaven, while 72 percent believed that Jesus is God or the Son of God. Belief in hell and the devil was expressed by 62 percent. |
http://uk.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUKN2922875820071129?sp=true |
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cunning_stunt
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:09 am Post subject: |
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Briton is the "has been" or "once was" of places . It's all gone to crap (other the ireland which is following the opposite trend) . the quality of life is so low that every year 100's of thousands of South Africans go there , can get visas from ancestry to stay there , but CHOOSE to go back to AFRICA .
Honestly ...having lived in both places I got to tell you brits....your country(countries) is/are full of wonderful friendly people on the most parts . But they are cold , expensive and quite unliveable to any decent standard . Things we take for granted back home are a luxury to you . Leave ...leave and never look back . |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| No, you are wrong, it's a great place to live and it's getting better all the time. |
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cunning_stunt
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| No, you are wrong, it's a great place to live and it's getting better all the time. |
Ignorance is bliss I suppose . Hardly anyone can afford a home , or to eat what they like , drink , smoke , party , go on holidays , holiday homes , cars , maids , hobbies etc . Where I come from all this things are standard for the middle class . The standard of life is really quite low in the UK . |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: |
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I stumbled across this yesterday, which seems fitting too:
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LONDON (Reuters) - A chain of retail stores in Britain has withdrawn the sale of beds named Lolita and designed for six-year-old girls after furious parents pointed out that the name was synonymous with sexually active pre-teens.
Woolworths said staff who administer the web site selling the beds were not aware of the connection. |
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSEIC16848020080201?feedType=RSS&feedName=oddlyEnoughNews
Though I wonder if Americans or Canucks would do any better. I know Canadians learn very little about their past Prime Ministers in school |
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bejarano-korea
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:03 am Post subject: Re: Britons are losing their grip on reality |
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And there's your anwser Chris.
Who watches UK Gold but doleys and chavs!
The only people who are real to them are people who they can see and touch and Jeremy Kyle! |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
Location: the Straight Talk Express
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:23 am Post subject: |
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| No, you are wrong, it's a great place to live and it's getting better all the time. |
Ignorance is bliss I suppose . Hardly anyone can afford a home , or to eat what they like , drink , smoke , party , go on holidays , holiday homes , cars , maids , hobbies etc . Where I come from all this things are standard for the middle class . The standard of life is really quite low in the UK . |
Yes it is news to me that people in the UK do not drink. Or smoke, party, go on holidays, have holiday homes, or cars, or hobbies. Middle class, working class, or up your ass, which is where you pulled that from.
It's true that people don't have maids the way South Africans do but ... that's a bad thing? Personally, I'm not comfortable with the idea of having servants. Or slaves either.
House prices are getting so high that young people can't afford a house but this is an increasing problem in many countries. |
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cunning_stunt
Joined: 16 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: |
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Yes it is news to me that people in the UK do not drink. Or smoke, party, go on holidays, have holiday homes, or cars, or hobbies. Middle class, working class, or up your ass, which is where you pulled that from.
It's true that people don't have maids the way South Africans do but ... that's a bad thing? Personally, I'm not comfortable with the idea of having servants. Or slaves either.
House prices are getting so high that young people can't afford a house but this is an increasing problem in many countries. |
Not to the same extent . Trust me you just don't live as well . Let me explain :
If two people doing the same job went out for a night out . Had the same meal and the same drinks and did the same activities . Then you calculated the costs and put it to ratio of what they earned for that same job...the British guy would be a lot worse off for his sins . With the obvious exception of lower end work like street cleaners . Like I said..middle classed .
The decline in quality of life is something many English people talk about . I don't know what's controversial or offensive about that .I'm not saying its a bad place or hell hole or anything . Just saying it's too expensive in relation to what you earn . That's economics . I'd just rather live somewhere sh!ttier with good opportunity for growth and affordable lifestyle . Britian isn't that place for me . You just get a raw deal and increasingly will do so due to your lack of natural resources .
Ok . Servants as slaves ? We will put hundreds of single family bread winners out of work to make you more comfortable .Save me the pc bollocks and grow up . Many people support their maids in getting educated and many ways far beyond what could be expected . |
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faster
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You may actually be upper class in South Africa, if you can live that way. Lets look at some per capita income figures:
South Africa - US$13,300
England - US$38,000
The reason cost of living is so affordable in South Africa is that people in general are much poorer. This brings down manufacturing costs, and renders service industry salaries so much smaller as to be incomparable. Money goes a long way in places where few people have any.
What's it mean? If you can live that large in South Africa, you are probably a lot closer to upper class than middle class. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Yes it is news to me that people in the UK do not drink. Or smoke, party, go on holidays, have holiday homes, or cars, or hobbies. Middle class, working class, or up your ass, which is where you pulled that from.
It's true that people don't have maids the way South Africans do but ... that's a bad thing? Personally, I'm not comfortable with the idea of having servants. Or slaves either.
House prices are getting so high that young people can't afford a house but this is an increasing problem in many countries. |
Not to the same extent . Trust me you just don't live as well . Let me explain :
If two people doing the same job went out for a night out . Had the same meal and the same drinks and did the same activities . Then you calculated the costs and put it to ratio of what they earned for that same job...the British guy would be a lot worse off for his sins . With the obvious exception of lower end work like street cleaners . Like I said..middle classed .
The decline in quality of life is something many English people talk about . I don't know what's controversial or offensive about that .I'm not saying its a bad place or hell hole or anything . Just saying it's too expensive in relation to what you earn . That's economics . I'd just rather live somewhere *beep* with good opportunity for growth and affordable lifestyle . Britian isn't that place for me . You just get a raw deal and increasingly will do so due to your lack of natural resources .
Ok . Servants as slaves ? We will put hundreds of single family bread winners out of work to make you more comfortable .Save me the pc bollocks and grow up . Many people support their maids in getting educated and many ways far beyond what could be expected . |
It's not PC bollocks. I'm not pretending to feel that way in order to be PC; I genuinely feel that way. I'm used to treating other people as equals.
You may say it's no different to dealing with a waiter or a shop assistant and I suppose that's true but with a maid it's someone constantly in your own home, alongside other people that you just relax with. Maybe I'm just not used to it.
As for the general cost of going out and having a good time, I know for a fact you can go out a lot more in, say, the US for the same money (if you ever get any time off from work) but you exaggerated quite a bit. |
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BS.Dos.
Joined: 29 Mar 2007
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Britain? Expensive? Have you all gone mad?
Where else can you buy a gun or a knife for about 30 quid on any high street?
Drugs? Ecstacy is about a quid a pop now. That's a night out in anyones country. Christ, you can fill your pipe with top grade crack for around a tenner and still have change for some locally grown mega skunk and a blowjob from a local heroin induced teenager. The distribution channels are incredible these days. It's not like in the 90's when you had to go looking for stuff, just pop up to your local comprehensive school and you'll be able to get everything you need.
Recent surveys have also revealed that the cost of stolen goods has consitently fallen over the last few years. You can pick up many brand new electrical items for next to nothing nowadays. Ask anyone wearing a Henry Lloyd jacket or Burberry baseball cap or, alternatively, should you see any 15 year old girls pushing prams (you will) with another toddler who's covered in dirt screaming behind in tow, just ask her, she'll be only to happy to make a few extra quid before she picks up her giro, housing benefit, tax credit, etc. Chances are, they should be able to sort you out there and then.
You need to put things into somesort of context before you start making broad sweeping inflammatory comments like that. |
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