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Denied an E-1 Visa for Car Accident
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climb4life



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Sokcho

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:13 pm    Post subject: Denied an E-1 Visa for Car Accident Reply with quote

Hello,

My name is Bryan. I have worked in Korea for the last year. During that time, I was in a car accident. I had full insurance and my car was registered. I did not flee the scene and I was not drunk. I paid my fine and I apologized. I believed everything was ok! The police officers, my employer and the justice departmet told me I did everything right and even thanked me for paying my fine and not just leaving the country!

I was awarded a job at a University near Daegu. I was awarded an E-1 visa based on my job experience and career expertise. My wife and I have a newborn baby and have planned to raise her in Daegu together.

But, today I was contacted by my employer and they told me the Minstry of Justice rejected my visa! Their reason was I had a CRIMINAL RECORD?? They told me a car accident represents a criminal offense, therefore I was not allowed to work in Korea.

I am wondering if there is a way to appeal this decision? I am an upstanding citizen with a clean background in America and many references from friends and employers here in Korea.

This was my dream job! We have spent the last 3 months planning for this part of our life.

And now we are told we cannot live in Korea, because of a car accident. I don't understand...do I have any options??

I can not believe that after making a mistake (an illegal left turn), then doing everything else right, taking responsibitlity for my mistake and paying the fine. Korea responds by kicking me out. Is there anyone I can talk to or appeal to??

I am flying to Korea on Wednesday to try and appeal this situation and plead my case to any one who will listen. Where should I start? I am an honest person, with a family and a clean record in my home country, but here in Korea, I'm viewed as a criminal....

Please help me.
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polonius



Joined: 05 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try contacting this guy:

Mr. Choi,

Ministry of Justice

Resident Policy Section

02-500-9068

[email protected]
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ouch. Bad deal.
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climb4life



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Sokcho

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have sent a few emails to a few people in the Ministry, including the address you just gave me. Thank you for the suggestion. I'll let you know what they say.

Thanks again for the email....any other email addresses, that anyone has would be great, I'm just trying to get the ball rolling here, downhill in my direction finally.

Bryan
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MissSeoul



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: Denied an E-1 Visa for Car Accident Reply with quote

climb4life wrote:


I am flying to Korea on Wednesday to try and appeal this situation and plead my case to any one who will listen. Where should I start? I am an honest person, with a family and a clean record in my home country, but here in Korea, I'm viewed as a criminal....

Please help me.




Talk with your employer who is Korean, then start from there, if your employer care enough they can take care your problem.
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waltjocketty



Joined: 09 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Re: Denied an E-1 Visa for Car Accident Reply with quote

MissSeoul wrote:



Talk with your employer who is Korean, then start from there, if your employer care enough they can take care your problem.



Agreed. Your employer should be fixing this problem and you should not need to fly to Korea just to resolve this.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I talked to K Immi. back in Dec. and they told me that applicants cannot have ANY criminal record. This contradicts their earlier statements about only excluding molesters and fraudsters but what else is new? And yes, in Korea traffic violations are crimes. Stealing billions of dollars and hiding in another country is fine. (See The-Chaebol-Formerly-Known-as-Daewoo for more info.)
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Mi Yum mi



Joined: 28 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked my nose in public and found that on my criminal record. I guess Korea doesn't want you and your terrible driving skills here. All Koreans are perfect drivers and never get into accidents.
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climb4life



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Sokcho

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 10:19 am    Post subject: Talked with my employer Reply with quote

My employer has actually been great. He has been working day and night, and contacting everyone he knows, but they all say the same thing. The new rules seem to be set in stone. Despite that on the immigration website they say they are considering easing the regulations a bit to help employers.....well this is one opportunity.

I have to come back to pick up all of my stuff I left there, when we thought we were coming back anyway. So, I'm going to give it a try myself....otherwise who knows. If anyone has any email addresses or contact info of someone who might help, please let me know.

Thanks again everyone
Bryan
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lose your passport, come back as someone else, get a job at a different uni.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^But the OP is above board.
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a couple of sources that I always recommend to people for help. These may or may not be of any use to you.

1. Korea Legal Aid Corporation. Free legal assistance for those who qualify. You probably qualify. However, no English speakers there so you'll need translation help.

2. Seoul Migrant Center. Free assistance. I have a counselor who is very helpful and gets me the correct answers when other professionals have given me incorrect info.

Phone numbers for both of these can be obtained by googling.

Good luck. That sucks.

This should serve as a cautionary tale for all E-2s who are driving in Korea. I use public transit myself, but I realize that people with children often prefer to have cars.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, were you given a piece of paper saying that you had been charged with a cirminal offence?

I'm asking because the cops have pulled me over a couple of times for minor infractions. Asked for my I.D., gave me a warning looking very imposing. They used their phones to consult with higher ups on the spot (bored I guess).

For a traffic violation to go on record (and traffic violation is a crime, apparently) would you be given a paper/ticket? If not then I assume it's dismissed with a warning. But the cops WERE plugging my I.D. into their phone/handheld.

The situation was a bit of mountain road where the police were driving along at the speed limit which they said was 40km/hr. There are NO signs up. Nobody drives so slow on that road, ever. Cars were lined up behind the police car poking along. I passed and the police got in a flap.


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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is very, very scary.

I'm hoping this is a troll.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I did read car accidents are a crime. And libel is a criminal offense too. Korea sparkling.
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