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kscouse



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 1:38 am    Post subject: 3 months Late Reply with quote

10 months into my contract - my Boss has not paid me for 3 straight months !!!!

Best course of action??????????

See out the remainder of my contract - with hopes of getting my monies and severance???

Go on strike???

Other Korean teacher have been getting paid.

Cheers[/b]
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 2:20 am    Post subject: Re: 3 months Late Reply with quote

kscouse wrote:
10 months into my contract - my Boss has not paid me for 3 straight months !!!!

Best course of action??????????

See out the remainder of my contract - with hopes of getting my monies and severance???

Go on strike???

Other Korean teacher have been getting paid.

Cheers[/b]



Call 1350 (extension 7 for English service) and then file a claim with the labor office.

Otherwise you are looking at losing about 14 million won total in lost wages and benefits. It is in your bosses best interests to get rid of you instead of pay you.

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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do it now. Call the Labor Board, and file a claim, or you'll find yourself at the end of your contract having to leave the country, or with nowhere to live, while you wait a month for them to get around to your claim.

Don't even tell your boss what you are doing. He'll just pay you a little, promise you more later, and hope to string you along longer.

You need someone to put foot to his a$$.

And don't give up your claim until you get ALL of your pay that is due.
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Don't even tell your boss what you are doing. He'll just pay you a little, promise you more later, and hope to string you along longer.



or he'll phone labor and file complaints/tell lies about you.

if it were one month of pay that he owed you, he might pay up if threatened with labor, however, for 3 months pay (like another poster said), he'd probably just sack you

good luck
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kscouse



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spoke to a lovely lady at the labor board.

I'll file the claim tomorrow -what are the chances of getting all of the money?? Sure there are lots of ways my boss can slip and slide out of paying me.

The boss can cry financial difficulties - but other Korean teachers are getting paid - and it is basically buisness as usual at school.

Strangeeee

PS I have been a model teacher and this is actually my second year with the school.

Cheers
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really sorry for you. This is an absolutly dispicable situation (unfortunatly, an all too common one). I have to ask though, when payday came around the previous 3 times and your money wasn't there, what did you say to your boss? And what did he say to you to for you to ride it out this long?

A friend of mine had a similar story, It was his second year at a school (he'd recieved severence and airfare etc) and 2 or 3 months in, the boss stopped paying him. Every week he'd ask for his money, and his boss would pass along some story, and give him 100-200,000 to tide him over till he recieved his paycheck. This went on for almost 4 months, in the end he was fired, labour was toothless and my mate found himself out about 6mill. This was a couple of years back. If I recall the story correctly, the school stopped paying the Korean staff too.

What really bothers me is this, in his case and yours it was a second contract with the school. I can only assume that in both cases the school was pretty fair/reasonable in the first year, otherwise why would someone resign? Yet something happens and suddenly "decent" employers try to live life on the shady side. This is another reason why working in the private sector is so risky, even if you recieve good, honest reviews on a place (or in this case, experienced it yourself) the chips can turn in a heartbeat.

PS. Anychance this fine educational institution is in Daejeon?
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chachee99



Joined: 20 Oct 2004
Location: Seoul Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should report this ASAP. You should have stopped working 3 months ago. If your boss hasn't paid you now, don't expect your boss to be putting a big deposit into your bank anytime soon. You are just free labor in his eyes.

ESL teachers need to practice the "no pay no work" philosophy. Financial woes is not excuse for stiffing your employees out of money they are entitled to.
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are a scouser - what would your cityfolk do about not getting paid?
Especially after 3 months!

Are you allright for money? PM if you need a few quid!

Go and get this bastard by the balls via the labour board!
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kscouse



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers,

I'm good for money - I

I would love not to get fired - be able to see out my contract - get the 18 or so million that I will be owed come April- and sail off to a more secure venture.

Sounds easy enough lol

Hopefully the labour board will help me out - or my boss will man up and settle his debts.

Sounds easy enough lol

Laters
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Kimchieluver



Joined: 02 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kscouse wrote:
Cheers,

I'm good for money - I

I would love not to get fired - be able to see out my contract - get the 18 or so million that I will be owed come April- and sail off to a more secure venture.

Sounds easy enough lol

Hopefully the labour board will help me out - or my boss will man up and settle his debts.

Sounds easy enough lol

Laters


I would be searching for a new job NOW.
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Chris Kwon



Joined: 23 Jan 2008
Location: North Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you start a site to notify people of who the shady hagwons are so people in the future don't have to avoid these situations?
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Mi Yum mi



Joined: 28 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why do you need to ask? If you don't get paid for 3 month you report the guy.

Then you do damage to his business without getting caught. Make sure it doesn't come back and bite you on the ass.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, this job is down the drain. You will need someone who speaks Korean to help you file at Labor. everything is in korean. You need to file for the money AND a letter of release. After you file at Labor, go to Immigration and let them know that you have an ongoing Labor case. You need to do this just in case your boss gets mad and lies to Immigration about you and your status.
In about a week, labor will let you know the hearing date.

BTW, protect your documents, especially your diploma and contract.
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It astounds me how people will work for free. I can understand 1 month, but 3? Give me a break!! People like you are a reason why hagwon owners will continue to screw teachers. Did you ever hear the saying, "time is money" ? I live by it.
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regicide



Joined: 01 Sep 2006
Location: United States

PostPosted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I-am-me wrote:
It astounds me how people will work for free. I can understand 1 month, but 3? Give me a break!! People like you are a reason why hagwon owners will continue to screw teachers. Did you ever hear the saying, "time is money" ? I live by it.


Indeed. This guy has got to be making this up. No one could be that stupid. Actually, if this is true, you are so stupid you do not even deserve your pay.

On a serious note--consider the concept of face here. It would be a serious loss of face for a Korean Hogwan owner NOT to be able to pay his employees--especially his non-Korean one who they look down on anyway.

When you become a CREDITOR to your boss he loses all respect--or he should.

So it may be possible that he is just ripping you off and therefore he has not lost face--in his mind.

The waygook teacher would be the FIRST paid ( perhaps after the older bus drivers) when a school is going down hill by any self-respecting wonjongnim.

I wouldn't stay ONE day longer than my scheduled pay day. I might take half of my pay and wait another week, but that would be it.

I would park myself at the bank with enough time to get to work IF the money was there.
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