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[Milwaukiedave]

McCain wins Wisconsin

[stillnotking]

Exit polls show about a 55-43 Obama win in WI. The networks haven't called it yet.

There wasn't much doubt Obama would win; the question was, by how much? I thought he'd outperform the polls but it appears he's stayed pretty close to the predicted margin of victory.

Hey. Good enough. The most important thing was to keep the momentum going into the March 4 primaries.

Edit: CNN calls it for Obama, obviously on the basis of some combination of exit polls and early returns. The final vote tally won't be known for a few hours, and I won't be up. Go Obama!

[Milwaukiedave]

CNN projected Obama wins Wisconsin.

[Ya-ta Boy]

With 18% of precincts reporting:

Omabam 56% 100,763
Clinton 43% 77,658


McCain 55% 40,045
Huckabee 37% 27,123
The other guy 4% 3,168

RealClearPolitics said it was 46% - 42% the other day. If these early returns hold up, this will be another trouncing for Clinton. I predicted Obama would win by 10-15%.

Probably the most interesting numbers: Obama 100,000 - McCain 40,000. The Democrats are much more stirred up than the Republicans at this point.

Yo ho! Yo ho!

[Milwaukiedave]

The Hawaii Caucus doesn't start until 7pm (2pm here), so it will probably be 3 or 4pm (Korean time) before the results are known.

[Ya-ta Boy]

The people of Hawaii are good people and all, but Obama spent a lot of time there and was expected to win by 30-40%, so it won't tell us much about the mood of the general electorate. Wisconsin was predicted to be fairly close. It isn't. That tells us something important.

[Ya-ta Boy]

With 43% of precincts reporting:

Obama 55% at 229,835
Clinton 43% at 180,221

So the % is holding up.

McCain 54% with 92,776
Huck 38%

And the other guy is making a last minute surge...he's up to 5%

[Milwaukiedave]

[Milwaukiedave]

[Milwaukiedave]

McCain is projected by CNN to win Washington state. There is a primary for the Democrats, but no delegates at stake since they have already held their caucus.

[Czarjorge]

85% in for Wisconsin...

Obama- 58%
Hillary- 41%

43% in for Washington...

Obama- 50%
Hillary- 47%

Hawaii won't be out for another hour or two.

I predicted 62/37 for Wisconsin. A four point spread is pretty damn good if I do say so myself. Take that Chuck Todd.

[cbclark4]

Wow another big day for Obama.

Regards to the earlier comment about more Democrats voting in the
primary. This is the usual case in the primary there are almost always
more registered Democrats than Republicans. The only time you will see
more votes for the republicans is in open primaries where Independents
are allowed to register at the poll or choose a ballot.

I don't know if WI is a an open primary?

Also there is the red state blue state thing.

[Milwaukiedave]

Yes, it was an open primary. You are also correct about it being a battleground state. In both 2000 and 2004 Wisconsin was close.

Maybe our resident Badger (not sure if I used in the right context) can chime in with commentary on his home state?

CNN projects Obama wins Hawaii

Results for Hawaii

Obama 76%
Clinton 24%

68% reporting as of yet

*Updated*

[Milwaukiedave]

From MSMBC:

Highlights of early Wisconsin exit poll results

Intro -
Highlights from preliminary results of exit polling Tuesday in the Wisconsin primaries for The Associated Press and television networks:
Shifting white voters
In the Democratic primary, Sen. Barack Obama led Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton among Wisconsin's mostly white voters, a sign that his campaign has eaten into Clinton's support among groups that have supported her in earlier states. And Obama tied Clinton among women, even white women, Clinton's core group. Obama increased his edge among young white voters and expanded it into middle-age voters, winning among white voters under 60 years old. Obama even tied Clinton among white voters without a college degree, a group Clinton usually wins.

Partisans and Independents
Obama showed his appeal to independent voters, who had a choice of parties in Wisconsin's open primary. Obama won the votes of 6 in 10 self-described independents, while he tied Clinton among self-described Democrats.
Rallying the base
In the Republican primary, John McCain showed stronger support among key Republican groups, a sign that he is slowly making progress in his efforts to unite his party behind him. McCain actually did better among self-described Republicans than he did among independents, an unusual event in recent Republican primaries, although in Wisconsin's open primary many moderate independents may have chosen to vote in the more heavily contested Democratic race. But the trend seen in recent primary states still continues when it comes to ideology. McCain and Huckabee tied among conservatives, while McCain won overwhelmingly among moderates. While McCain won those who called themselves "somewhat conservative" he lost to Huckabee among the quarter of Republican voters who said they were "very conservative."

Evangelical voters
McCain's problems with the evangelical vote still hasn't gone away. About a quarter of the voters in the Republican primary were born-again, evangelical Christians, and they voted 2-to-1 for Huckabee over McCain. Evangelical voters have been the base of the ordained Baptist minister's support.
Thumbs down on globalization
Wisconsin Democratic primary voters were not big fans of globalization. Seven in 10 said U.S. trade with other countries takes more jobs from Wisconsin and fewer than one in five said it creates more jobs for the state. One in 10 said international trade has no effect on the state either way. But those skeptical about globalization didn't vote much differently in the primary than those who said they think it's a good thing.
Economy looking grim
Broader economic concerns were apparent. As in earlier primaries, at least half of Wisconsin Democrats said the nation's economy is not good and nearly all the rest said it is poor.
Wisconsin Republican primary voters felt a bit better about the economy, but still, a majority said it was not good or poor.

Open primary turnout
Wisconsin has truly open primaries -- voters choose in the voting booth which party's primary to vote in. The exit poll indicated that, as in earlier open primaries this season, far more voters were participating in the Democratic than the Republican contest. By well over 2-to-1, independents opted to vote in the Democratic primary over the Republican. For about one in seven Democratic voters, Tuesday was the first time they were voting in a primary.

[Milwaukiedave]

Washington Democratic Primary (non-binding):

Joe Biden 1,447 0.28 %

Hillary Clinton 240,394 46.93 %

Christopher J. Dodd 473 0.09 %

John Edwards 8,999 1.76 %

Mike Gravel 787 0.15 %

Dennis J. Kucinich 2,766 0.54 %

Barack Obama 255,918 49.96 %

Bill Richardson 1,473 0.29 %

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Total Votes 512,257 100%