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mindmetoo
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| Yeah it's getting a little over the top. |
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Gwangjuboy
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think they are saying it's a bad as auschwitz etc. What they are saying is that people are visiting it out of a similar feeling that made people visit place like Auschwitz and ground zero. |
If that was their intention it the writer should have taken more care in making that point. It was a terribly insensitive piece. |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I get it. All of these events involved people being burned alive, and then a gate getting burned down. I see the connection. |
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cbclark4
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe so would my trip to Geoje have been.
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you didnt like Geoje??? I thought it was refreshing and nice for korea to have a place like that.. did you do to Oedo too?? |
I had a great time in Geoje. I visited a POW camp, as well as an amusement park that had been closed in 1999 due to fatality. |
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parisny
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Location: Steven Seagal's Brain
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| Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Thread title is misleading -- the "Dark tourism" thing was part of a sidebar explaining that some places with a tragic past had become hot spots. It's really a stretch to make it sound like JoongAng is equating NDM with Auschwitz. Korean journalism is bad already, they don't need to have their stories misinterpreted by us!! |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:11 am Post subject: |
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| The thread title is not misleading. The article states that the Namdaemun fire site is comparable to Auschwitz. |
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billybrobby
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Joongang Ilbo says "Namdaemun=Auschwitz" |
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| The title of this thread is a gross simplification of the author's point. The author is merely saying that trips to see the burnt-out Namdaemun belong in the same class as trips to auschwitz, etc., that is, dark tourism. And he's entirely correct. He doesn't say they are of the same magnitude. |
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dogbert
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| Things were burned in Auschwitz too. I can totally see the comparison. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Joongang Ilbo says "Namdaemun=Auschwitz" |
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| billybrobby wrote: |
| The title of this thread is a gross simplification of the author's point. The author is merely saying that trips to see the burnt-out Namdaemun belong in the same class as trips to auschwitz, etc., that is, dark tourism. And he's entirely correct. He doesn't say they are of the same magnitude. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: |
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Absolutely. A wooden gate/6 million people. Got it.
Yeouido is Manhattan, Jeju is Hawaii and Namdaemun is Auschwitz.
The country right next door that contains the world's most appropriate comparison to Auschwitz? The one we fund with rice and oil? The one where people really get shot in the head all the time? That's just the neighbours being cranky.
The article states that people come to Namdaemun to reflect on "loss of cultural properties." 6 million people aren't "cultural properties."
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| I think I will take a holiday to Namdaemun this weekend. I will bring my camera and show off to my friends what a dynamic hub Korea is. |
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parisny
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:21 am Post subject: |
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BillyB said: "trips to see the burnt-out Namdaemun belong in the same class as trips to auschwitz" -- exactly.
The TRIPS are motivated by comparable desires to see the site of a disaster. The author didn't imply that the DISASTERS were of the same magnitude.
Again this article doesn't deserve the indignation it's getting on this thread -- save it for the many other Korean newspaper stories that really display bad journalism. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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| The article does however Godwin itself. Disaster tourism is much different than dark tourism, as well. Seeing Namdaemoon belongs in the same class as visiting New Orleans or Chernobyl. It is a grey area though. |
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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:44 am Post subject: |
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| parisny wrote: |
BillyB said: "trips to see the burnt-out Namdaemun belong in the same class as trips to auschwitz" -- exactly.
The TRIPS are motivated by comparable desires to see the site of a disaster. The author didn't imply that the DISASTERS were of the same magnitude.
Again this article doesn't deserve the indignation it's getting on this thread -- save it for the many other Korean newspaper stories that really display bad journalism. |
Come on man! Comparing the burning down of a building to places where thousands of people were murdered is ludacris!
They do not belong in the same class and are not motivated by the same desires.
Namdaemun and Auschwitz should not belong in the same paragraph.
Like I said before Seodaemun would be a much better comparision. Although that place was still not on the same livels as Austwitz, Ground Zero, or Nagasaki.
The author of the article deserves a smack upside the head. |
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