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Joined: 14 Jan 2008
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 Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:34 am Post subject: Now this will reallyyyy help the teacher shortage... |
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Now Koreans intend to toss you in the clink for a year if you get caught tutoring. People will come to Korea in droves for the opportunity to spend a year in a Korean jail for trying to help a kid learn English. Is there ever an end to the brilliant ideas they come up with here?
Why do Koreans seem intent on always shooting themselves in the foot?
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2008/02/117_19296.html |
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Sadebugo1
Joined: 11 May 2003
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:46 am Post subject: |
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I remember during the IMF crisis in '97-'98, my students' parents cancelled classes for a few months. Why? Well, posters had been put up in apartment buildings encouraging tenants to report foreigners who visited regularly. This was the authorities way of coping with their mishandling of the economy. What it all boils down to is protecting the interests of the hagwon owners. You don't have this problem in Japan.
Sadebugo
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| Seriously these precautions are just about protecting hakwon owners? I don't get it at all. Glad I'm on an F-whatever visa. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: |
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| Glad I'm on an F-whatever visa. |
Sometimes it seems like half this board is on an F-whatever visa.
Sellouts. |
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kingplaya4
Joined: 14 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| Except being on an F whatever visa offers no protection from this new law. The party's over folks. |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:05 am Post subject: |
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| I think they are actually talking about korean private tutors, but it is not a big deal to go to the regional office of education and get registered, nor at the tax office. |
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Oreovictim
Joined: 23 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:15 am Post subject: |
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Yet one more reason teachers are saying, "You know $&*@ it. I'm choosing a different country to teach in."
I'd like to see corrupt hagwon owners thrown in jail for a year for not paying into pension or insurance, delaying pay, charging a higher % for taxes, withholding severance, screwing us on airplane tickets, and every other shady thing that hagwon owners do. But that will never happen. If they did, the jails would fill up real fast. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: |
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According to the law, those offering private education should report their teaching activity to the regional educational office and tax authority. Those violating the rule will be subject to one year in prison or a 5 million won fine. Previously, the punishment was up to a 1 million won fine.
This means you could be allowed to REPORT your lessons, pay tax on the income and do it legally.
The law targets tutors who provide pricey lessons at students' homes without paying taxes on their earnings. However, college or graduate school students are exempted from the regulation. Private tutoring is one of the most popular part-time jobs for students.
This bolded part is pretty reasonable and aims at leveling he playing field...not bad actually.
According to the revision bill, unregistered hagwon (private teaching institutes) or other forms of places that provide lectures to students will receive the same punishment as that for illegal tutors. The previous penalty was a one-year prison term or up to 3 million won in fines.
This means schools get slammed hard as well...excellent.
The amended law also stipulates that tutors who continue to give private lectures without reporting will be suspended from teaching for one year. Previously, such sanctions were slapped only on illegal hagwon, not tutors. |
The law or regulation is meant to regulate private tutoring. This is not unexpected. It also seems to be aimed at Korean tutors and schools more than anything else.
Also, if a teacher comes here on an E-2 visa and teaches privates he/she is violating his visa, period. The fact some feel it is no real crime does not change the fact it is a visa violation.
The proper thing to do for the government (and this article hints at it) is to put into place a means for teachers to register as private tutors and pay taxes on the income they earn as tutors. Ideally this would include E-2 teachers who would then simply have to register and pay taxes on their private tutoring revenue.
This would have the added benefit of regulating the industry. |
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Chris Kwon
Joined: 23 Jan 2008
Location: North Korea
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:21 am Post subject: |
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| How exactly does one get caught? |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| Chris Kwon wrote: |
| How exactly does one get caught? |
Disgruntled girlfriends. |
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big_fella1
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Sadebugo1 wrote: |
| You don't have this problem in Japan. |
True enough although since the NOVA collapse in Japan the rate for Privates has dropped to 1000 yen (approx 9000 won) per hour.
Yes Privates are a breach of an E2 visa, so now they are offering a free bed and breakfast package I guess rates will have to go up (I'm thinking bek man won per hour might be worth it?).
F2, F4, and F5's will need to register. Tax is cheap here but I am not sure what the local education office will put you through to register (dress well for the visit I guess).
This doesn't really help Hagwon's much as they are going to need to start paying more if E2's can't make a bit extra on the side. People won't come to Korea not to make money.
BIAS ALERT I am waiting for my last month's pay before my Hagwon boss files for bankruptcy and don't find Korea particularly sparkling at the moment. |
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mikekim
Joined: 11 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| it says college graduates are exempt. Nothing to worry about for most of us. Looks like they logicslly want to weed out the non-college grads trying to teach high school students how to get into college |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| mikekim wrote: |
| it says college graduates are exempt. Nothing to worry about for most of us. Looks like they logicslly want to weed out the non-college grads trying to teach high school students how to get into college |
It does not say that. The article says that graduate school students and undergraduate school students are exempt. |
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Kimchi Cowboy
Joined: 17 Sep 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| The article is unclear if this law is aimed at Korean nationals or foreign residents, or both. However, under current law (as I understand it), Koreans are allowed to tutor IF they report their income to the tax office. Knowing that, it seems to me that the law is aimed at those Koreans who are tutoring and not reporting their extra income. |
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kprrok
Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC
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| Posted: Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like a good law to me. If people break the law, they should be punished. If you don't like it, don't break the law.
Now I'd love to see enforcement of the laws that are already on the books, starting with traffic laws. That'd be nice to see.
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