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Terrible implications for Filipino nationals
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:03 am    Post subject: Terrible implications for Filipino nationals Reply with quote

Apparently the PEOA Circular 4 regulations are demanding $5,000 US from people wanting to travel overseas to work. Also if you are a Filipino who is working abroad when you go back to the Philippines you'll be hit with the fine if you try to exit. So much for Filipino's teaching in Korea. I kind of wonder what its gonna do to the prostitution industries around US installations in Japan in Korea. There's no way the Japanese and Korean employers are gonna shell out that much cash per employee. Serious implications for everybody if the US grunts have no one to buy lady drinks for. The industry will dry up this year as the law is about 2 months old.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: Terrible implications for Filipino nationals Reply with quote

xingyiman wrote:
Apparently the PEOA Circular 4 regulations are demanding $5,000 US from people wanting to travel overseas to work.


What is the PEOA? A Philipino gov't organization?
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:30 am    Post subject: Re: Terrible implications for Filipino nationals Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
xingyiman wrote:
Apparently the PEOA Circular 4 regulations are demanding $5,000 US from people wanting to travel overseas to work.


What is the PEOA? A Philipino gov't organization?


Sorry buit I misspelled it. It's POEA - Philippines Overseas Employment Agency.

My wife is Filipina and this is causing a big stir among her and all her friends. They may not be able to return home to PI for a very long time.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That just means the Korean recruiters who bring in migrant workers and prostitutes will focus more on Indonesians and Vietnamese. Nothing changes, as far as Korea is concerned.
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betchay



Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is just for "direct hire". It's kinda difficult to explain since there's another way to hire a Filipino directly and it's called "name hire". I have several Filipino friends here working profesionally as reporters, consultants and engineers and they were hired through "name hire".

Anyway, you might want to update your wife with this:

http://www.poea.gov.ph/mc/mc1_S2008.jpg
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I-am-me



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's called "extortion". Filipino politicians need their spending money. If your wife is married to you she shouldn't have any problem. Or was she working here when you met her?
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xingyiman



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

betchay wrote:
This is just for "direct hire". It's kinda difficult to explain since there's another way to hire a Filipino directly and it's called "name hire". I have several Filipino friends here working profesionally as reporters, consultants and engineers and they were hired through "name hire".

Anyway, you might want to update your wife with this:

http://www.poea.gov.ph/mc/mc1_S2008.jpg


We're way past that. My wife left the Philippines as a tourist and got a job in Thailand. We are in Thailand and planning on returning to Korea next month. Name hire accounts for less than 2% of Philippines work force abroad. My wife has checked all the avenues and we figure theres no way she can get around paying the fine should she return.
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xingyiman



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I-am-me wrote:
It's called "extortion". Filipino politicians need their spending money. If your wife is married to you she shouldn't have any problem. Or was she working here when you met her?


Yeah its extortion money alright. The local Filipino community in Bangkok is pretty large and they are all up in arms about this. There are singe mothers with 3+ kids who have a choice - stay here and work sending money home to care for their children, or return home and watch their kids starve. My co teacher is married to a Filipina also and he's really mad at it all. There are lots of protests going on in the Philippines and abroad so we'll wait and see what happens. I guess the recruiters for jobs abroad are having cows because they know nobody is going to pay that kind of money. So they're basically out of business. On the flip side of this thePhilippines is losing nearly every teacher they have to Thailand as they can come here and make 10 times what they do at home. So its a combination of trying to keep qualifiedworkers in the Philippines making peanuts and extorting money from everyone else.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Completely insane.

Thanks for posting this though.

My wife is Filipinas as well, but thankfully she has an American passport as well.

That's real bad news for her friends who live in Korea who don't though.
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard all the Phillipine doctors are leaving to get high-paying nursing jobs abroad, leaving the Phillipine health system in ruins.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiger, I didn't know you married... when did this happen?
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My wife left the Philippines as a tourist
This is still confusing. If she left as a tourist how do they know if she is working? Would all filipino tourist need to pay $5000 to re-enter the philippines/. It doesnt make sense. Question
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Tiger, I didn't know you married... when did this happen?

one year ago in las vegas. she's filipina-american.
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow damn idiotic. Think they'd be better of sinking all of their governmental budget into education and then keeping their country afloat on remittances.
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sketcha



Joined: 05 Sep 2007
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

well, this just mean there will be more illegal workers here ...

I'm sure the phillippines government could tell if you're working or not by looking for a working visa in your passport ...

but if you're working illegally without a working visa, then you might be able to get away with it

immi - you went out on a tourist visa, you havent been working?
dude - yep and nope
immi - but you've been gone for 2 years!!
dude - I got lost

I know some phillippinos, will ask them about this next time I see them

poor poor attempt at trying to hold on to (qualified) people from leaving your country
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