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Alt. US map: US states named for countries with similar gdp
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:46 pm    Post subject: Alt. US map: US states named for countries with similar gdp Reply with quote



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Pluto



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always suspected Russia and the dirty Jerz of having uncanny similarities Shocked Trenton, St. Petersburg hmmm....
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our peers and/or competitors are not here. Where does Britain fit into this? Which states might the EU, PRC, Japan, and/or Germany subsume?
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blaseblasphemener



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's crazy when you look at it that way.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why?
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
Our peers and/or competitors are not here. Where does Britain fit into this? ..


More or less the same as France.
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Milwaukiedave



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it fitting that Korea is compared to a state that's a peninsula? That's interesting to see where states match up versus different countries.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
More or less the same as France.


So, then, Britain and France each make up their own California. And the Netherlands makes up its own Penn. Add Germany and Japan to that mix, whereever they might fit, and the image becomes more and more interesting...
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just dug around and found that the map is oncorrect.

The GDP of California is about 82% of that of France and 79% of the UK.

Frane - 2.067 trillion
UK - 2.147 trillion
California - 1.7 trillion

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... the image becomes more and more interesting...


Agreed.

I cannot be arsed to check the rest, but that map looks like a load of baloney.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not baloney. Just not precise and exact.

I would suggest that the EU's combined GDP approaches, say, two-thirds America's. And Germany and Japan have always been the closest thing to economic equals we have ever known. Probably remains so today.

I would like to see a map that grafted the EU, and then Britain, the Dutch, France, Germany, and finally Japan, onto it.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Germany GDP = 2.833 trn
Japan GDP = 4,346

Hardly equal.

The EU is 14.45 trn and the US 13.86 trn.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never said "equal." I said "closest to equals we have ever known."

In any case, the real economic power is what Kees Van der Peel has called "the Atlantic ruling class": America, Britain, and the Dutch. 1930ish to the present. So we would actually need to transnationalize our map to further this conversation.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BB,

This map provides a little better perspective, I think you'd agree.
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Justin Hale



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The United States' GDP is 90% of the EU's, but the population of the US is 60% of that of the EU, hence the US's drastically superior per capita GDP (EU is 65% of the US).

The EU contains many poorer states, most recently Romania and Bulgaria (having joined one year ago). If we take the Big Three - Germany, UK and France - together they have approximately 50% of the GDP of the US (the population of UK/France/Germany is 69% of that of the US, but with 13% of the area)

In terms of purchasing power parity the UK, France and Germany together are 52% of that of the US and, in a straightforward EU vs US binary, the US has 90% of that of the EU.

I suspect a huge reason for the superiority of the US over the EU Big Three combined is the resources. The US has the largest coal reserves, for example, but perhaps there are many other reasons and I'd be interested to hear other opinions. The differences between the EU and US are utterly trivial generally, but regarding economics, there are clear differences. Why?
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Czarjorge



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
BB,

This map provides a little better perspective, I think you'd agree.


I don't think this one is accurate.

California is supposed to be equal to Italy or Canada? Italy's is 1.6-1.8trn and Canada's is 1.2-1.3trn. That's a big difference.
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