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Korean missionaries want to go back to Afghanistan.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:24 pm    Post subject: Korean missionaries want to go back to Afghanistan. Reply with quote

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Taliban can't stop Korean missionary zeal
By Sunny Lee

BUNDANG, South Korea - This is the Saemmul Church, just south of Seoul. It is this Presbyterian congregation that sent 23 Christian volunteers to Afghanistan last July on short-term aid and evangelical missions. All the volunteers eventually returned home, two of them in coffins.

A 43-day abduction ordeal the group endured dragged the whole country into a state of anxiety and shock, prompting thousands to join candlelight vigils. The Saemmul Church was criticized for having a naive evangelical worldview and knowingly sending a group of mostly young, overzealous Christian believers in their 20s and 30s to an obvious danger zone.

During the hostage crisis in Afghanistan, Park Eun-jo, the founder and senior pastor of the church, was very apologetic and repeatedly said his church would no longer engage in missionary work in that country. Six months have since passed. "Things have

returned to normal," a deacon at the church said. Park is also now saying something slightly different, displaying renewed mission enthusiasm for Afghanistan. And this warrants due attentiveness.

On this last Sunday morning in February, Park isn't here to deliver his sermon. "He is away for three weeks in the US to hold 'Prayer Meetings for Afghanistan'," says the deacon, who himself had planned to join the mission team to Afghanistan last year but eventually did not, due to family obligations.

The church newsletter confirms that Park is in the US, visiting churches in Los Angeles, New York, Atlanta, Houston and San Francisco, to name a few, to seek their support and also prayers for the Afghanistan mission in which two of his church members, including the associate pastor Bae Hyung-kyu, were slain by the Taliban, the hardline Islamic militants.

In his letter to the parishioners, shown in the church newsletter, Park says: "I apologize for not being present at the church for three weeks. I am making this trip because the Lord gave me a challenge on Afghanistan." Park continues: "When I think about the heart of God who let the two people's blood be shed in Afghanistan, I am also inclined to think that it's the same heart of God facing me and Saemmul Church as well as all the churches in this age. I regard serving Afghanistan as the mission task for all Christians today."


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Park's sermon reached its climax when he said: "We need 3,000 more Bae Hyung-kyus in the future," referring to one of the slain hostages, adding "our missionary zeal shouldn't be dampened because of this incident. Rather, we should devote ourselves more passionately to the mission".


emphasis mine. Read the whole thing here: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/JC01Dg01.html

HT to ROK Drop.
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Bingo



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Exactly my response. "And this year's winner for the annual Darwin Awards is........." I say let them go. But next time the photo-op goes bad, don't go begging the international community to bail you out. If you're not willing to die for your rediculous beliefs, you shouldn't be pushing them on others in the first place. It's time for humanity to throw off its iron age superstitions.
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philipjames



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they do go back to Afghanistan it is our duty, as members of the human species, to leave them to their fate. Our species will only continue to evolve when we let the darwinian process remove them from our gene pool. If they are rescued again, and return to Korea, chances are they will reproduce and........

As I was reading that article all I could think of was "Darwin would really enjoy this article." Very Happy
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Smee



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They publically thumbed their noses at travel advisories, diplomacy, and common sense last time---remember the photos in front of the travel warning posters?---and the US got blamed. Then South Korea paid millions of dollars to the Taliban, putting its so-called allies in mortal danger. Let's hope the public is more aware of the antics of this group so that, when they get kidnapped, tortured, and ransomed again, there won't be the hair-trigger "help us, USA, you owe us!" reaction.
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hogwonguy1979



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

can we alert the taliban these geniuses are back? maybe they can do us a favor

talk about stupid
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Young FRANKenstein



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
Then South Korea paid millions of dollars to the Taliban, putting its so-called allies in mortal danger..

The fact that they paid will absolutely GUARANTEE this next group will get snatched, too. They know the SK gov't will buckle and pay up. Easy money for them, so why not?


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CeleryMan



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would Joel Osteen do?
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's something we overlooked when we were making fun of Lee Myungbag during his presidential campaign. He's a bit of a Christian whackjob, and last time was an outspoken proponent of the Korean government negotiating with terrorists. With him as the new president, it will be easier for missionaries to go to Afghanistan, as well as be negotiated for by the Korean government. So don't worry about missionaries disobeying travel warnings--maybe soon the travel warnings will be revoked.

On the bright side, if the government is sending all its money to the Taliban, there might not be enough to build the Grand Canal.
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Bibbitybop



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the new Rambo and the missionaries from Colorado that went into Burma made me think of this situation.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
I watched the new Rambo and the missionaries from Colorado that went into Burma made me think of this situation.



Seriously, this is such a backward mentality. It is that mentality that what I think must be done or work even if it defies logic. If you go to Afghanistan, there is a high chance you will be kidnapped unless you have the military protecting you. That church is absolutely stunned as me ar*e. Afghanistan is a Muslim country, and they do not want missionaries.
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anyway



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This only goes to show that opium is highly addictive.
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

re: "christian whackjob"...isn't such redundant? anyone who believes in a religion is by definition a whackjob.
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Adventurer



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistermasan wrote:
re: "christian whackjob"...isn't such redundant? anyone who believes in a religion is by definition a whackjob.



Not necessarily. I could argue someone who doesn't believe in some kind of higher being is that way, but I wouldn't. I have atheist friends, and I don't make that judgement as you are. However, if someone is not using common sense and just literally follows an ideology whether the Bible, Marxism, or the Quran, then they can be whackjobs. They are often quite inflexible. This Korean church doesn't seem to have much common sense.
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