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What's up with the salaries?

 
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zizi



Joined: 01 Dec 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:47 am    Post subject: What's up with the salaries? Reply with quote

I keep hearing that it's hard to get teachers right now because of the new visa regulations, but I don't see the salaries going up. I also heard that the new president wants to give E-2s to Philippinos and Indians and cap the salaries at 1.5. Anyone else heard anything? I want to go with a PS job next time and was hoping for more money Exclamation
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh... these troll posts are getting old.

The jobs that will be available will be out and away from Seoul in places where there is little or no money. Koreans still want white faces to teach them English.

Read the print:



It says that this school does not employ East Asians to teach English. Now why would they say that? Because Koreans don't want their accent. Lots of illegal "phone English" schools popped-up, and employed East Asians who spoke English. People began to figure this out, and felt cheated.

On another note, as has been mention in many threads recently, philipinos working overseas have now been hit with a grossly unfair government tax of $5,000 if they work outside of the Phils and return home. This just came down in the last few weeks, and it more or less snuffed-out any chances of inroads the philipino workforce might have here.

As for salaries going up -- it's not going to be immediate. Give it another 6 months. Budgets are often set and not changed until the next budgeting period.
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Juregen



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wage is not as simple as Supply and Demand.
Wages can increase, but they do very very slowly for a couple of reasons.

1. People get stuck in contracts (about a year in the case of ESL)
2. Lack of trust
3. Lack of information
4. price fixing of major players (government, major chains, ...)
5. limited profitability of a teacher. Teachers are not scalable.

Plus education in itself is a weird Industry.
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When the situation gets catastrophic (ie. 5% of the ESL teaching force holds legal visas, Education Ministry Officials are begging and screaming for whitey big nose ESL instructors in public schools, hakwons are offering company cars and penthouse suites to anyone who will get legal and work for them, recruiting agencies are bankrupt and ajumas are storming the Blue House demanding Englishee for their children) Korea will ease the visa laws and I imagine a salary rise will accompany this as an incentive. Razz
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zizi



Joined: 01 Dec 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a troll, look at my other posts. I'll finish up a crappy contract in a few months. I was thinking I should submit my resume for PS jobs now so I have time to get through the visa process in time. Maybe it's better to wait.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly enough back in Thailand Filipinos wages started to rise with the teacher shortages due to regulations.

I know the Indian that was put into my job at my old school is making 32,000B a month which is only 5,000 less than the time served teachers there.

The Filipina ESL teacher is now just under 30,000B a month.

Not big money compared to here but it is there considering Pinos were being employed at sub 20k two years or so ago.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokki1 wrote:
When the situation gets catastrophic (ie. 5% of the ESL teaching force holds legal visas, Education Ministry Officials are begging and screaming for whitey big nose ESL instructors in public schools, hakwons are offering company cars and penthouse suites to anyone who will get legal and work for them, recruiting agencies are bankrupt and ajumas are storming the Blue House demanding Englishee for their children) Korea will ease the visa laws and I imagine a salary rise will accompany this as an incentive. Razz


Should Korea ease the visa laws, the "exodus" of teachers to other countries would likely reverse course...thus keeping salaries low. Plus it may encourage more first timers to come here. Then there are all the potential recruits from India...
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doubtful. Wishful thinking by the stubborn, archaic Korean gov't.
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Suwoner10



Joined: 10 Dec 2007

PostPosted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank God (fer those of you that stay) Koreans feel whites are the supreme race.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few months back there was a large school chain that failed in Japan. Thousands of teachers were out of work. Some of them were picked up by other schools and programs, but apparently hundreds have come to Korea. This could be offsetting the effects of the new regs.

Recently we have had recruiters with teachers and no positions and teachers themselves contacting our school looking for jobs. Where is the teacher shortage?
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just wait.
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maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject: . Reply with quote

I believe therre is a Korea Student Fair 2008 on 29 and 30 March. The visa section from the British Embassy will attend the fair to provide accurate information on the visa application.
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Saxiif



Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam

PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And now I am very thankful for my pearly white skin, which will help keep me fed in this country for as long as I want. If the public schools start hiring big piles of Indians/Philippinos then that'll just mean more business for my hagwon from racist moms.
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