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endo
Joined: 14 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul...my home
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| dogbert wrote: |
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| Strangely enough after OJ Simpson was acquitted of double murder in the same city, we didnt see whites rioting and looting. |
Very good point. |
The rioting after the verdict was much more than Rodney King getting clubbed by four police officers.
It was about the systemic problems in terms of police violence (worthy or unworthy) against minorities in LA.
I'm not condoning it, but I think its hard for caucasians to understand the anger felt by some in the black community.
Again I'm not condoning it and I firmly believe that most of the problems withing the urban ghetto communities in America are the fault of the communities living there.
But when police constantly pull you over, beat you, ect... you're going to be a little pissed off. |
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MissSeoul
Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Somewhere in America
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hate to say it but it's usually blacks that start the riots and then go on a looting rampage of the group who predominatly owns the businesses in the area, like Koreans, Jews, Arabs, Cubans, etc. |
It's always BLACK. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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I once met a guy at the VA hospital who was in the marines, assigned to Camp Pendleton and who was on foot patrols with the LAPD during the '92 Riots.....he said that after the first few hours of chaos, people just starting fending for themselves..the scope of chaos and mayhem was massive, something that wasn't seen since the 60's and 70's....
The relationship between the Koreans and the African-American communities has always been on eggshells and still is in many respects.... |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Beej wrote: |
| Strangely enough after OJ Simpson was acquitted of double murder in the same city, we didnt see whites rioting and looting. |
Those Korean dudes in the OP's youtube selection are great guys for that-dont' get me wrong.
The difference between OJ and the riots is that OJ was charged, and rightfully [cough cough] acquitted-the criminal charges in the latter case were against cops-OJ, apart from bad movies, was never a cop. It's a weak comparison at best.
However, it's too bad the LAPD didn't go Tianemen Square on the riotting, looting crap heaps. |
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TECO
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| crusher_of_heads wrote: |
| However, it's too bad the LAPD didn't go Tianemen Square on the riotting, looting crap heaps. |
Yeah, I personally have no problem with the theiving blacks and hispanics being shot on sight. Elimiinate them.
Good for the Korean dudes. |
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nicholas_chiasson
Joined: 14 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| looting for anything besides food has always been considered the mark of human scum. I think the national guard should always shoot to kill in riots. And I agree with the Koreans in this case. |
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Cheonmunka
Joined: 04 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Strangely enough after OJ Simpson was acquitted of double murder in the same city, we didnt see whites rioting and looting. |
OJ was a product of the system and always put into a sidekick role in movies. His was a case of one the fewer times when a black person kills a caucasian. (read: 'To Kill A Mockingbird.')
The system (policies) doesn't help the majority of African Americans.
Drugs are rife in the communities. So, government doesn't legalize the stuff - it's so simple to just get rid of the big money element = problem solved. It doesn't introduce awareness plans and put more tax money into education to help the young. It doesn't make disarmament a state plan. It brings swat teams, death, and incarceration into communities. Its policies don't work.
That's pretty obvious.
As for the Korean men: Do they have a legal/moral right to kill people who are thieving?
(The looters were thieving, not killing.)
An esl teacher here or anywhere doesn't have the right to kill his/her director to protect his assets. If your director witholds your airfare you can kill him?
Only in America would they still be allowed to keep their shop and green card/citizenship.  |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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If your director witholds your airfare you can kill him? |
We can still dream, can't we? |
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CeleryMan
Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: |
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As for the Korean men: Do they have a legal/moral right to kill people who are thieving?
(The looters were thieving, not killing.)
An esl teacher here or anywhere doesn't have the right to kill his/her director to protect his assets. If your director witholds your airfare you can kill him?
Only in America would they still be allowed to keep their shop and green card/citizenship. |
These 1st generation Korean immigrants live and die (literally) by their storefront. Had the looters been Korean, I guarantee you it would still be a "squeeze first, ask questions last" scenario.
The real phenomenon behind the LA riots was how quickly Koreans mobilized under such adversity, didn't whine, and literally rebuilt their livelihoods from the ground up. Only in America can a Korean immigrant lose everything and still be successful. I suppose this is what you would call the "American Dream?"
Chalk up the witholding of airfare as the "cost" of doing business with a Korean. Slimy but it is what it is. |
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Billy Pilgrim
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All I can say is thank God Koreans can't get guns here.
I have no problem with them protecting their property, though. Other people have a choice not to go in and rip their stores apart. If it were my store, I would be shooting to scare or injure (easier said than done, I'd guess), I would imagine, try to scare people off. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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Every man has a breaking point, and I can empathize with what those dudes did. Also, I fully agree with the right of honest citizens to own guns and to use those guns to protect life or (in some cases, such as this) property.
But they were standing on the street shooting randomly. That is not at all appropriate even in a war zone. |
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mrgiles
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
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wow is racism really still so barefaced and rampant in america as a lot of the posts here seem to suggest? scary u guys are running the world.
come to think of it, can't think of many huge empires that have been very nice - guess that's how they get so powerful. but at least rome and to a smaller extent britain had a bit of style. |
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sjrm
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| mrgiles wrote: |
wow is racism really still so barefaced and rampant in america as a lot of the posts here seem to suggest? scary u guys are running the world.
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racism is rampant everywhere. it's just more exposed in the US because of, well, it's the US. racism will never go away no matter how much you try to stop it. everyone is prejudiced against a race, gender, etc. in one way shape or form. anyone who says they aren't is lying to everyone they say they that to, as well as themselves. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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| Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| sjrm wrote: |
| mrgiles wrote: |
wow is racism really still so barefaced and rampant in america as a lot of the posts here seem to suggest? scary u guys are running the world.
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racism is rampant everywhere. it's just more exposed in the US because of, well, it's the US. racism will never go away no matter how much you try to stop it. everyone is prejudiced against a race, gender, etc. in one way shape or form. anyone who says they aren't is lying to everyone they say they that to, as well as themselves. |
How do you know everyone in this thread is from the US?
You don't.
The US is close to possibly electing a black candidate to the White House. It'd be wise not to generalize. |
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sjrm
Joined: 27 Jul 2005
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| bassexpander wrote: |
| sjrm wrote: |
| mrgiles wrote: |
wow is racism really still so barefaced and rampant in america as a lot of the posts here seem to suggest? scary u guys are running the world.
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racism is rampant everywhere. it's just more exposed in the US because of, well, it's the US. racism will never go away no matter how much you try to stop it. everyone is prejudiced against a race, gender, etc. in one way shape or form. anyone who says they aren't is lying to everyone they say they that to, as well as themselves. |
How do you know everyone in this thread is from the US?
You don't.
The US is close to possibly electing a black candidate to the White House. It'd be wise not to generalize. |
did i say everyone in this thread is from the US?
no, i didn't!!
yes, the US is close to electing either a black or female president, but that doesn't mean that racism still isn't widespread in the US. i am from the US, and have been to quite a bit of the south. it's just more hush hush down there, but believe me, it's still rampant down there. there's still a bit of it in big cities, too. |
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