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Omkara

Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Location: USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:36 pm Post subject: Public Schools--How Much OT? |
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My school offers me OT, and I take some. But there need is higher than my willingness, and owing to the complex visa structure, they cannot fill the extra hours. . .so I feel a little pressure to work still more, but have stood firm.
Now, I teach six extra classes a week. That keeps me in school til 6:20 twice weekly. To take on more would make that three long days a week.
What are your situations like? |
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Bibbitybop

Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| I know people with no overtime who teach under 20 hours a week and I know people who work a ton of overtime every day and are over 30 hours a week. |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject: Re: Public Schools--How Much OT? |
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| Omkara wrote: |
My school offers me OT, and I take some. But there need is higher than my willingness, and owing to the complex visa structure, they cannot fill the extra hours. . .so I feel a little pressure to work still more, but have stood firm.
Now, I teach six extra classes a week. That keeps me in school til 6:20 twice weekly. To take on more would make that three long days a week.
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I work my full 22 regular and 6 afternoon extra classes and I still finish at 4:30.
BTW, you are not supposed to work more than 28 classes per week (MAX) in the public system. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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One week I have 13 classes, the next 14 classes. So, about 10 contact hours a week.
I have after school program (7th period) four days a week. 20,000 per class.
I may do a teachers class, one two hour class a week, but I don't know yet. 50k per class I think.
I will do other things later in the school year, like running the skit club, but that's for free.
that's it. |
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farrepatt
Joined: 27 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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I work in a middle school.
Last semester, I had 18 hrs of regular classes, 2 hrs of teaching teachers, and six hours of extra classes. I worked an extra 30 minutes a day.
This semester, I have 22 hrs of regular classes, and my school just asked me to do 8 hrs of extra classes. I'm going to have to tell them I can't, but I'm worried they're not going to be very happy with that. It's a new school, and I think they really want to be known for the English extra classes they have; but 26 hrs last term was a drain, I'm not looking forward to 28, so I'll wriggle out of it if I can.
My husband made a good point last night: if I agree to teach 30 hrs a week, they will expect the teacher that comes after me to teach 30 hrs a week, and I really don't want to do that to that person. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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If you agree to it now, you can also never go back and do less....
You can always use the health argument. Tell them that last year working so many hours made your "health go down"... |
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R. S. Refugee

Joined: 29 Sep 2004 Location: Shangra La, ROK
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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| poet13 wrote: |
One week I have 13 classes, the next 14 classes. So, about 10 contact hours a week.
I have after school program (7th period) four days a week. 20,000 per class.
I may do a teachers class, one two hour class a week, but I don't know yet. 50k per class I think.
I will do other things later in the school year, like running the skit club, but that's for free.
that's it. |
I'm all in favor of you getting these extra pay increments, but I do wonder about it if you're teaching ps.
The reason I wonder about it, is that with my ps contract there is no overtime until I've put in 22 contract hours into teaching something. Since I'm only doing 18 at the moment, they are planning to have start me soon teaching a class for mothers one afternoon and a class for "advanced" students another afternoon to get my teaching hours up to the contract-specified 22 (for no extra pay).
Then they are planning to have me teach another 3 classroom hours as part of an 2MB after school initiative for which I'll get 20,000/hr. extra pay. They dropped having me teach teachers here because the teachers are too busy and don't want to study English. |
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cruisemonkey

Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't do overtime... my free time is worth more to me than the money. |
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poet13
Joined: 22 Jan 2006 Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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I am teaching at a Private/public middle school.
The after school program is separate from regular classes, and sponsored and paid for for any teacher who teaches those classes.
I am sure that someday I will have more regular classes. I'm not going to complain. This year I happen to be very lucky. I have a reputation in my town for going out of my way for others (burning buildings and an exploding gas can storage facility at 3am come to mind), I treat people very well, and they in turn look out for me. They know my family moved here late last year, that my wife is pregnant, and they are giving me as much freedom to be with them as possible.
Human nature is funny. If you feed a man shit for a month, he will complain bitterly that his food tastes like shit. In the second month, if you feed him rancid pork, he will thank you. In the third month, if you give him filet, he will say the pork tasted like *beep*. We are never satisfied, and that, for both good and bad, is our nature. |
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