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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Awsome!!!! |
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ED209
Joined: 17 Oct 2006
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Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice work Oreo. Can we please have some more pranks to pull on kgirls? Good or bad. |
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mateomiguel
Joined: 16 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| I've got a good prank that will make Korean girls scream. Cough loudly. Alternatively, you could stand up from your chair. Or, perhaps, grab something quickly. They're like deer, they are. Anything will set them off. |
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RJjr

Joined: 17 Aug 2006 Location: Turning on a Lamp
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| NilesQ wrote: |
As far as killing the myth about being able to leech language from foreigners, you would have to start on the Korean end because that is where it resides. Just look at the English education system here. Lets put kids in a room with an untrained, unexperienced "teacher" and they are sure to learn English. Ever had a kids mother force them to say hello to you or try to have a conversation? Yeah that is some organic language aquisition there. We are the sympathetic native speakers and most Koreans believe, rightly probably, that incerased "face time" with one of us will lead to better English ability. Now are some ladies prepared to give up a little "asss time" for some of our face time,? You bet. People always make dating decisions on what they get out of it. Be it looks, money, personality, social/business connections, or any number of other things. Tit for tat or in this case, tit for that....that mother tongue.
I am someone who is very turned off by those of us who seem to carry that "everyone is just trying to get free English classes from me" mentality into every interaction here. It is especially annoying when that person cant speak a lick of Korean. How the hell is anyone suppossed to talk to you then? Moreoften than not, the average Korean is better at English than the average ESL teacher is at Korean. So it stands to reason that a lot of our communication with them is going to happen in English. I also understand the frustration of those people who have been around here a few 24s and have a grasp of day to day Korean and get laughed when you spit out a perfectly pronounced sentence and Mr. Laughypants Kim responds in some jacked up Engrishee with a crack at your Korean. He is the equivelant of our as*hole ESL punk who wont speak without a promise of payment or p*ssy.
It really comes down to personality. I have met girls who don't want to speak English with me and have girls who probably wouldn't give me the time of day if I wasn't blessed with the English gene. Most of those girls aren't bad, they just do what every other woman on earth does, use the mans belief that there is a remote chance he might get in those pants to steer things in the direction she would like to see them go. That may eventually be into her bed, or down platonic language exchange lane. What would be the fun if you knew straight off the bat? |
Without a doubt, one of the top five best posts ever on Dave's. |
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whatever

Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Location: Korea: More fun than jail.
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| I once had this coffee date with a girl and decided to show her my spider galbi pictures. |
jesus, god. it wasn't the spider. it was your arm hair. you could win a prize for that...
that said, good post! |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Location: korreia
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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I wrote a short story regarding my White-Day eve experiences, whaddya think?
It was White Day, essentially a 2nd Valentine's Day, in Korea. I was drinking beer-on a weekday no less, a habit I have mostly quit- and I had forgotten the day until talking to a woman on the phone who reminded me and loudly demanded candy. I said I would the next day, early in the morning, which wasn't to happen. I sent a text message to a long lost fling that I had met in Korea nearly two years ago and she also demanded candy. She worked at a bar and finished at 2:00 am, so into a taxi I hopped after picking up some candy stuffed inside of a teddy bear.
Maybe it was loneliness, but she certainly looked really good. Barmaids are nearly always quasi-prostitutes in Korea and she was dressed the part. She led me to a convenience store and asked me to get some whiskey. She chose Windsor, 17 years. About $45 for a bottle, but hell, this was Korea-where whiskey is universally pricey- and it was White Day, so I said OK. The cashier spoke a bit of English but seemed to have Down syndrome or something. He wasn't all there. But he was shorter than me, and for some reason I feel instant affinity and affection for any man that is.
We got back to her place, which apparently only cost $250 a month. But it's a rooftop unit and has a nice outdoor patio area. I was really very envious of it, considering my academy was springing $550 a month for what is essentially a dorm room.. It must have been so cheap because of how old the unit was and how far it was from the subway (a minimum of 20 minutes).
So we began to drink. I already had a few beers in me so I was in no rush, but she was taking shots heroically. She had a cat. The place smelled like a cat. And she would not please any animal rights folks, grabbing and pulling it by the tail and such. When I pointed that out, she said I ought to see what she did to him when company wasn't around.
We talked. My 2nd head persuaded me to behave very well in hopes of the future. She had a lot of leg and knew it. She kept pulling up her shorts and saying, in slight Konglish, "I have such a hot leg-line!" I took a glance at her computer and saw a huge MSN messenger list while she was texting someone. A lot of people must've heard of that leg-line.
We finished the bottle. It was now about 4:30 AM and she wanted another. I suggested wine. She insisted on more whiskey. So off I went. Another bottle. They were out of Windsor 17 so I got Windsor 12 (with an amazing discounted price of $35 a bottle). I hammed it up a bit more with the cashier - this was the third time I had seen him as I had also been sent down earlier for ice. The situation was wearing thin. Upon seeing the number 12 rather than 17, this disappointed the little lady after one drink she decided she was finished drinking and I should leave. I'll admit, 12 didn't taste quite as smooth as 17, but it wasn't that bad. Booze is booze, especially when you're into the second bottle.
I was a bit miffed I had just gone out and bought another bottle for essentially no purpose (sweet Jesus a Jew does reside inside me), but I swallowed that comment and grabbed the bottle to take home with me.
Yet the lady did protest. And fireworks did ensue.
She insisted that I leave the bottle. We would drink it together next time. I kind of laughed at that and said I wanted to drink more at home. Then she gave me an ultimatum: "LEAVE THE BOTTLE OR THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF US EVER BEING TOGETHER." I wondered, "Do ultimatums ever work?" and started to head out the door. It was heartily slammed behind me.
I then got in a taxi. It is at such times that one always finds the best of taxi drivers. He offered me a cigarette and had one himself. He didn't take any bullshit detours to ring up a higher fare. And when I got out of the cab, he yelled "Obama!" and gave me a thumbs up. I woke up the next day with all the lights on and a nearly full bottle of Windsor 12 crammed into the pocket of my faux leather jacket. |
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xingyiman
Joined: 12 Jan 2006
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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| reactionary wrote: |
I wrote a *beep* story regarding my White-Day eve experiences, whaddya think?
It was White Day, essentially a 2nd Valentine's Day, in Korea. I was drinking beer-on a weekday no less, a habit I have mostly quit- and I had forgotten the day until talking to a woman on the phone who reminded me and loudly demanded candy. I said I would the next day, early in the morning, which wasn't to happen. I sent a text message to a long lost fling that I had met in Korea nearly two years ago and she also demanded candy. She worked at a bar and finished at 2:00 am, so into a taxi I hopped after picking up some candy stuffed inside of a teddy bear.
Maybe it was loneliness, but she certainly looked really good. Barmaids are nearly always quasi-prostitutes in Korea and she was dressed the part. She led me to a convenience store and asked me to get some whiskey. She chose Windsor, 17 years. About $45 for a bottle, but hell, this was Korea-where whiskey is universally pricey- and it was White Day, so I said OK. The cashier spoke a bit of English but seemed to have Down syndrome or something. He wasn't all there. But he was shorter than me, and for some reason I feel instant affinity and affection for any man that is.
We got back to her place, which apparently only cost $250 a month. But it's a rooftop unit and has a nice outdoor patio area. I was really very envious of it, considering my academy was springing $550 a month for what is essentially a dorm room.. It must have been so cheap because of how old the unit was and how far it was from the subway (a minimum of 20 minutes).
So we began to drink. I already had a few beers in me so I was in no rush, but she was taking shots heroically. She had a cat. The place smelled like a cat. And she would not please any animal rights folks, grabbing and pulling it by the tail and such. When I pointed that out, she said I ought to see what she did to him when company wasn't around.
We talked. My 2nd head persuaded me to behave very well in hopes of the future. She had a lot of leg and knew it. She kept pulling up her shorts and saying, in slight Konglish, "I have such a hot leg-line!" I took a glance at her computer and saw a huge MSN messenger list while she was texting someone. A lot of people must've heard of that leg-line.
We finished the bottle. It was now about 4:30 AM and she wanted another. I suggested wine. She insisted on more whiskey. So off I went. Another bottle. They were out of Windsor 17 so I got Windsor 12 (with an amazing discounted price of $35 a bottle). I hammed it up a bit more with the cashier - this was the third time I had seen him as I had also been sent down earlier for ice. The situation was wearing thin. Upon seeing the number 12 rather than 17, this disappointed the little lady after one drink she decided she was finished drinking and I should leave. I'll admit, 12 didn't taste quite as smooth as 17, but it wasn't that bad. Booze is booze, especially when you're into the second bottle.
I was a bit miffed I had just gone out and bought another bottle for essentially no purpose (sweet Jesus a Jew does reside inside me), but I swallowed that comment and grabbed the bottle to take home with me.
Yet the lady did protest. And fireworks did ensue.
She insisted that I leave the bottle. We would drink it together next time. I kind of laughed at that and said I wanted to drink more at home. Then she gave me an ultimatum: "LEAVE THE BOTTLE OR THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF US EVER BEING TOGETHER." I wondered, "Do ultimatums ever work?" and started to head out the door. It was heartily slammed behind me.
I then got in a taxi. It is at such times that one always finds the best of taxi drivers. He offered me a cigarette and had one himself. He didn't take any bullshit detours to ring up a higher fare. And when I got out of the cab, he yelled "Obama!" and gave me a thumbs up. I woke up the next day with all the lights on and a nearly full bottle of Windsor 12 crammed into the pocket of my faux leather jacket. |
Now thats a cool story! |
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kermo

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| It's not literature, but it's pretty damn believable if you've lived in Korea long enough. |
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reactionary
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Location: korreia
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: |
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not literature - crap! i'm heart broken. I could've told that entire story in just a few sentences.  |
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justin moffatt
Joined: 29 Aug 2006
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: |
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I think all people have various levels of insecurities, however, my OBSERVATIONS were based on SOME of my experiences of dating in Korea. I am pretty well versed in seeing the angles that some women have, although after learning some Korean language expressions, it was easier to filter through the bullsh*t.
Hell even my wife and her friends have admitted to me how some Korean women use foreigners for the reasons I previously mentioned. If you perservere, and have the stamina to endure it may just lead to your objective . . .
In other words, if you AWARE of the possible angles, it is easier to filter out what you want or don't want (without feeling used). |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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| justin moffatt wrote: |
| If you perservere, and have the stamina to endure it may just lead to your objective . . . |
Hehe... and she will be very grateful, since you eat bosingtang and drink ginseng tea every day! Stamina!! |
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darkcity

Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: SF, CA
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 4:27 am Post subject: |
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i haven't finished reading all the stories yet, but they're all gold so far. i'll share one of mine:
i was a late bloomer, never went on a date with a girl until I was 20. she was 29 and worked with me (this is in california).
white girl with dreadlocks, first sign. speeding in her '81 corvette, listening to Eminem and Punjabi MC at top volume is another. when she told me about how she was emotionally attached to the car because she escaped the cops from it once, that would've been anyone's warning sign.
there was also a lot of other emotional baggage she was too ready to share with me, like about her fatherless kid, uncle with cancer, etc
i stuck with it because it was my first date ever, but then she took me to her house to show me her paintings. they were mostly screwed up paintings of god knows what, but one portrait was of her removing her genitals because she "thought that if she was no longer a woman, he would stop doing that to me."
saw her once after that, but never again. i guess her uncle must've died because she never came back to work or returned my voicemail. |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Young FRANKenstein wrote: |
| Julius wrote: |
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| as i was saying goodnight, i leaned in for a little goodnight kiss action.....she promptly stopped me and proceded to say "This is not your country....". |
I've had that. The sudden curveball outraged nationalism at the first kiss. Even in moments of romantic intimacy these people feel the need to remind you once again that you're a foreigner. |
I've gotten it too, and not even for a kiss goodnight, but a kiss ON THE CHEEK goodnight. What the *beep* does she want me to do, shake her hand goodnight?
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| In hindsight I should have retorted "Exactly, this is korea, so I i'll do the respectable thing and go buy a prostitute". |
"...like your dad."
Anyway, my bad dating experiences here:
- met a co-worker's student in a sandwich shop near our school. He had told me she was single and up for a date if I was so inclined. She seemed like a nice enough person, and was cute enough, so I thought why not? I asked her out as we each paid for our sandwiches, traded phone numbers and made arrangements for our date two weekends later. The day arrives and I get stoodup. I call and no answer. Find out on the Monday after why she stood me up. She was on her honeymoon.
- another blind date, kinda. My student's friend was interested in meeting me, asked a few questions about me, and through her friend I answered them. She asked everything: age, job, hobbies, previous jobs, future goals, when am I looking to get married, etc. I was upfront about everything and even gave her a photo of me that she requested. Met her for coffee in Kangnam, but five minutes into it (yes, FIVE minutes) she slams her cup down, shouting "Oh! You are too old!", shoves herself away from the table and storms out. She knew my age and what I looked like before we even met, and we were the SAME AGE! What a cunt.
I was so angry, I texted a coworker and told him to meet me after class in Shinchon cause I'm going drinking to blow off steam. He met up with me at The Bar around 4pm and I was already well on my way to getting blasted. Later that night, a couple of Korean girls sat down at our table and my coworker chatted up one of them, leaving the other sitting there looking bored. I thought what the hell, the least I can do is be a good wingman and chatted up her friend.
She spoke zero English, but we ended up hitting it off despite my terrible Korean, planned another date, and ended up dating almost a year. One of my worst dates here ever helped me to find one of my best relationships here. We'd probably be married right now if I hadn't been an idiot.
If we're talking worst dates EVAR~~~! (not only those in Korea), then I would have to ine the one back in Canada. Dating the perfect woman for about 3 months, and then took her to a special restaurant for her birthday(?), I don't know some damn special reason. Anyway, that's when she drops the vomb on me: she has a kid. I had told her right from the beginning I did not want kids and will be getting a vasectomy soon to make sure of it. Not that I hate kids, I said, but just that they and fatherhood are not for me. She AGREED WITH ME, then drops this on me after THREE MONTHS! I ripped into her right there in the restaurant and walked out leaving her with the bill. "I knew you didn't want children, but I thought once you knew how wonderful I was and you fell in love with me, I could change your mind." Are you fucking kidding me?!? That is one hell of a lie to start a relationship with. Sorry, toots, that's called a deal-breaker. |
This could have been alot worse. Imagine if it had been.."Well I wanted tot ell you...Im HIV positive" or something like that |
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NAVFC
Joined: 10 May 2006
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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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Also I had another tad bit of weirdness to add. I dated a Korean Girl in the US once, but it was strange. The very very first date, she would talk about things such as her masturbatorial habits, her vibrator and such, telling me about how she releived stress and that she hasnt had sex in a year. A couple dates later (she was 20 at the time, I was 22) she revealed to me she had lost her virginity at 17 and has had 9 sex partners and that if I had sex with her I'd be #10, but not to worry because they had all used condoms) Then a few mnths into, (I hadnt slept with hrer yet) I went to pick her up one day and as were driving she told me to sniff her fingers on one of her hands. It was the scent of a woman if you get my drift. She informed me she had engagded in self pleasure before I came to pick her up. A couple weeks later we did the deed, and ddi it quite often their after. I asked her once why she has always been so canidd and she told me it was because to her sex wasn't a taboo, merely anoither part of daily human life, so to her no taboo or hush hush was needed to discuss it.
Well, I found out I was getting sent to Iraq, and 2 weeks before I was due to go, and 3 weeks before our one year annoiversary she dumps me for some English 7th day adventist church deacoin who i had found out she had been dating under the table for like 3 months anyway. |
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