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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:31 pm Post subject: F2 Visa and your own apartment |
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Well, I am getting married soon (this August) and I already know the F2 visa process through the valuable stickies here. However, I need to know the lowdown when it comes to apartments after I get my F2. So does the school provide a place for my wife and I? Or in this case would they provide an allowance and I would have to look for one myself?
I remember seeing that you had to prove your wife was living with you to get the F2. How do you do that when the school is paying for your apartment? I'm at a bit of a loss. Thanks for the help. |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: F2 Visa and your own apartment |
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Hank the Iconoclast wrote: |
Well, I am getting married soon (this August) and I already know the F2 visa process through the valuable stickies here. However, I need to know the lowdown when it comes to apartments after I get my F2. So does the school provide a place for my wife and I? Or in this case would they provide an allowance and I would have to look for one myself? |
if you need it. Tell them that the interview that you require housing AND stipulate that since you are married you need a bigger place than the average studio. if you don't require housing, you're entitled to a housing allowance which will likely be in the neighborhood of 200-400 thousand won. when you negotiate housing allowance, get it added to your contract as an additional clause so that it's not part of your taxable salary. e.g. salary is 2.5 million, that gets taxed, then you get 400,000 won on top of that. |
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Ruraljuror

Joined: 08 Dec 2007
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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Congratulations on your impending nuptials!
One thing to keep in mind, is that a marriage license to a Korean does NOT guarantee an F-2 Visa. They are seperate things. They don't just issue you an F-2 Visa when you register your marriage with City Hall. Getting an F-2 Visa can be rather tricky and unpleasant. If your mind has made the leap that marriage = F-2, then you are you are in for a shock.
It is quite possible to married for months (years?) and not be able to get an F-2. As you say, you need to provide proof your wife is living with you. And you are quite correct that showing that you stay rent free in someone else's apartment isn't going to impress Immigration. So you need to get a lease with your name or your wife's name on it. Goodbye free housing, hello housing allowance!
At least this was the case for me. As anyone will tell you, the requirements for acheiving an F-2 are a bit random, but when I went to get my F-2 (November of last year, less than 6 months ago) they needed to see that I had my own housing independent of my job. In fact, they pretty much insisted. Which makes sense...why would a country give partial resident status to someone who is essentially homeless? I mean, the free housing is a nice perk, but living in a house that can be yanked away from you at your bosses whim doesn't exactly show Immigration that you are a serious head of a household does it? It's time to stop thinking like an expat and start to put down roots. That's what the F-2 is for. It's not a "Private teaching license". Not even close. And trust me, you are going to be a husband soon -- NO ONE in your fiance's family (and believe me, this includes your wife) is impressed by living for free in hagwon housing. Good luck. |
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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Sat Apr 05, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Ruraljuror wrote: |
Congratulations on your impending nuptials!
One thing to keep in mind, is that a marriage license to a Korean does NOT guarantee an F-2 Visa. They are seperate things. They don't just issue you an F-2 Visa when you register your marriage with City Hall. Getting an F-2 Visa can be rather tricky and unpleasant. If your mind has made the leap that marriage = F-2, then you are you are in for a shock.
It is quite possible to married for months (years?) and not be able to get an F-2. As you say, you need to provide proof your wife is living with you. And you are quite correct that showing that you stay rent free in someone else's apartment isn't going to impress Immigration. So you need to get a lease with your name or your wife's name on it. Goodbye free housing, hello housing allowance!
At least this was the case for me. As anyone will tell you, the requirements for acheiving an F-2 are a bit random, but when I went to get my F-2 (November of last year, less than 6 months ago) they needed to see that I had my own housing independent of my job. In fact, they pretty much insisted. Which makes sense...why would a country give partial resident status to someone who is essentially homeless? I mean, the free housing is a nice perk, but living in a house that can be yanked away from you at your bosses whim doesn't exactly show Immigration that you are a serious head of a household does it? It's time to stop thinking like an expat and start to put down roots. That's what the F-2 is for. It's not a "Private teaching license". Not even close. And trust me, you are going to be a husband soon -- NO ONE in your fiance's family (and believe me, this includes your wife) is impressed by living for free in hagwon housing. Good luck. |
I was pretty sure that the F2 process was more indepth than just getting married and going to immigration. Right now I am living in an apartment paid by my public school, I could tell my school that I would like to pay for my own place and have my name on it. I do believe this gives me more of an incentive to resign so I can build up some sort of nest egg.
Thanks for the help. Cheers. |
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NightSky
Joined: 19 Apr 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Ruraljuror wrote: |
At least this was the case for me. As anyone will tell you, the requirements for acheiving an F-2 are a bit random, but when I went to get my F-2 (November of last year, less than 6 months ago) they needed to see that I had my own housing independent of my job. In fact, they pretty much insisted. Which makes sense...why would a country give partial resident status to someone who is essentially homeless? |
not true
if this happened to you you were subject to a whim of whoever was at the desk that day. an f2 is a marriage visa and is not dependent on whose housing, the boss or your own, you live in. |
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bassexpander
Joined: 13 Sep 2007 Location: Someplace you'd rather be.
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 1:30 am Post subject: |
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NightSky wrote: |
Ruraljuror wrote: |
At least this was the case for me. As anyone will tell you, the requirements for acheiving an F-2 are a bit random, but when I went to get my F-2 (November of last year, less than 6 months ago) they needed to see that I had my own housing independent of my job. In fact, they pretty much insisted. Which makes sense...why would a country give partial resident status to someone who is essentially homeless? |
not true
if this happened to you you were subject to a whim of whoever was at the desk that day. an f2 is a marriage visa and is not dependent on whose housing, the boss or your own, you live in. |
Well, if memory serves, we had to prove that we had at least 30 million won in the bank. It could be that Ruraljuror didn't have that. In that case, I can see them wanting a house as some form of collateral.
We sailed through ours rather easily. |
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eamo

Joined: 08 Mar 2003 Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:34 am Post subject: |
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bassexpander wrote: |
NightSky wrote: |
Ruraljuror wrote: |
At least this was the case for me. As anyone will tell you, the requirements for acheiving an F-2 are a bit random, but when I went to get my F-2 (November of last year, less than 6 months ago) they needed to see that I had my own housing independent of my job. In fact, they pretty much insisted. Which makes sense...why would a country give partial resident status to someone who is essentially homeless? |
not true
if this happened to you you were subject to a whim of whoever was at the desk that day. an f2 is a marriage visa and is not dependent on whose housing, the boss or your own, you live in. |
Well, if memory serves, we had to prove that we had at least 30 million won in the bank. It could be that Ruraljuror didn't have that. In that case, I can see them wanting a house as some form of collateral.
We sailed through ours rather easily. |
I was never asked anything about does my wife live with me (they assume she does) and what's in my bank account. |
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Thunndarr

Joined: 30 Sep 2003
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:41 am Post subject: |
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I can't remember whether we had to prove we had the requisite 30 million, but I do remember my wife worrying about that question at the time. I'm not sure if this rule is still in effect, if it ever was in effect, or what, but I am pretty sure that at least some immigration officials *think* it's a current rule so I would plan accordingly. |
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excitinghead

Joined: 18 Jul 2005
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: |
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I had the same experience as eamo. Getting my F2 Visa was the simplest of processes, all done with a couple of trips around Seoul in the space of a morning.
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cheeseface
Joined: 13 Jan 2008 Location: Ssyangnyeon Shi
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:44 am Post subject: |
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One more here with no hassles about getting the F2 visa, no questions about anything. This was last November. |
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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:59 am Post subject: |
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So did you guys have your own place before you went through the process? |
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Mr Crowley
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:58 am Post subject: |
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I have to re-new my F2 next month. I got my F2 last year, when we lived in Ansan at the Incheon immigration office. Now, we live in Suwon, and we have to go to the Suwon immigration office to re-new it. Has anyone on here got their F2 and/or re-newed it at the Suwon immigration office ? |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: All over the map
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Why work at a school with an F-2? It's your ticket to freedom (no boss) and considerably greater earning potential.
(shrug) |
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Hank the Iconoclast

Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Location: Busan
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: |
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caniff wrote: |
Why work at a school with an F-2? It's your ticket to freedom (no boss) and considerably greater earning potential.
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What line of work do you do? I mean, I know that I can teach privately and whatnot but I do want some job security. I need a sage F2er or F5er to give me some advice. heh |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:18 am Post subject: |
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The 30 million won thing is not true. All we had to provide was proof that either one of us was gainfully employed...and I'm not sure that's really necessary because I know a couple who were unemployed when the husband got an F-2. |
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