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applesandshanana



Joined: 09 May 2007
Location: Michigan

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a list of background check items that will exclude you from a visa?

A few years ago my fiance had a misdemeanor that was categorized as "disruptive person". Any idea if he should still be okay to go through the process?
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

applesandshanana wrote:
Is there a list of background check items that will exclude you from a visa?

A few years ago my fiance had a misdemeanor that was categorized as "disruptive person". Any idea if he should still be okay to go through the process?


To the best of my knowledge, no. However just from reading these posts on Dave's, I can see just about any smudge on the CBC will disqualify you.
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JerBear



Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:46 am    Post subject: Houston or Harris County, TX Resident? It's your lucky day! Reply with quote

If you're from Houston (or anywhere in Harris County), Texas, it couldn't be simpler. PM me for details. The company I used to work for in Houston does them all the time. The criminal check takes a day and then it's about 3 for the apostille (which they'll do for you).

Nothing to it.
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went to my local police station and got a background check within 5 minutes in upstate NY. They didn't have any idea what an apostille was. Never heard of it before.

On a note: my boyfriend, who is from the same area as me, got the local check that I did, and went to Korea with no apostille. That was for work starting in March. How did he get hired without an apostille?
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JerBear



Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MollyBloom wrote:
I went to my local police station and got a background check within 5 minutes in upstate NY. They didn't have any idea what an apostille was. Never heard of it before.

On a note: my boyfriend, who is from the same area as me, got the local check that I did, and went to Korea with no apostille. That was for work starting in March. How did he get hired without an apostille?


LOVE the avatar btw. That's an early Marilyn, right?

Anyway, the apostille process on police letters works like this:

1) You or an immediate family member (if a family member goes on your behalf, he or she MIGHT need a power of attorney, but this depends on the jurisdiction) apply for the letter through your local police office. In some areas, particularly rural areas and unincorporated townships, the sheriff's office is where you need to apply. You MUST make 100% to get a signature on the letter and that signature MUST be notarized. In some rare cases, certain police departments or sheriff's office might not have a notary on staff. In this case, you can bring your own notary with you to the police office and have them notarize the signer's signature.

2) Once notarized, the letter must go to the Secretary of State (SOS) of the state in which it was issued. Albany for New York, Austin for Texas, etcetera... In some cases (New York, for instance), it may be necessary to obtain county authentication first before sending the letter to the state capital. To determine whether or not this is the case, you can contact the Secretary of State's office directly or a private company. I know of two that are very good. One's in Houston (I used to work for them and can personally vouch for their professionalism and efficiency) and the other has offices in Sacramento, Baton Rouge, Albany and a few other state capitals as well. The SOS issues the apostille. An apostille is basically just a special authentication seal affirming that the person who notarized the letter is a valid notary known to the SOS office.

If you would like me to refer you to any of these resources, please feel free to reply to this post or send me a PM.

I hope that clears it up for you.
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MollyBloom



Joined: 21 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerBear wrote:
MollyBloom wrote:
I went to my local police station and got a background check within 5 minutes in upstate NY. They didn't have any idea what an apostille was. Never heard of it before.

On a note: my boyfriend, who is from the same area as me, got the local check that I did, and went to Korea with no apostille. That was for work starting in March. How did he get hired without an apostille?


LOVE the avatar btw. That's an early Marilyn, right?



Yes; you are correct! Smile

P.S. Could you send me the info for private company's office in Albany, NY? Thanks!
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: The "United Statesian" Criminal Check thread Reply with quote

Optimus Prime wrote:
cubanlord wrote:

that person must make sure s/he asks for the certified version


Interesting, as how my local Police Department was pretty hazy on what a simple Criminal "check" was last time I got one for Public School. They asked me, why don't they do what every emplyer in America does? Pay the $8 and perform an online background check?
They ended up just writing a letter, wording it something like "He's in good standing with the city." I can't wait to ask about this odd thing (in my cop shops eyes) I ask for to be certified.


I don't think the local police stuff will work anymore. I'm pretty sure
the "certified" in the quote above refers to state background checks.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mehmeh wrote:
MO residents: It is possible to get a CBC notarized and apostillized in one day. If you have a friend or family member willing to go to Jeff. City, they can obtain a notarized "Name Search" within a few minutes and carry it next door to the State Dept. for an Apostillization. The process can also be done by mail but you need to request a notarized letter when you mail in the offical CBC request form. This process takes about three weeks then it must be mailed back to the Dept. of State for an Apostile. Whoever goes should remeber to take a personal check or money order, cash is not accepted.

If you are in the state, you can obtain an FBI "Fingerprint Search" from the state in one day as well...but someone else cannot do this for you.

I'm going to make the run to Jeff. City next week, if you have any questions you want me to ask, PM me.

As far as I know, a "Name Search" is ok by Immi. and a "Fingerprint Search" isn't necessary...but I think a fingerprint search would be best if you have the option.


Missouri sent me a list of "runners" that will take the forms from one office to the other for you for a fee.
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axmill



Joined: 07 Mar 2008
Location: USA

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm from MO. does that mean I have to go to Jeff City or does a local one suffice? I heard that you don't have to have an apostille now, but have to send it in to a Korean consulate.
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JerBear



Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

axmill wrote:
I'm from MO. does that mean I have to go to Jeff City or does a local one suffice? I heard that you don't have to have an apostille now, but have to send it in to a Korean consulate.


FALSE: You're letter does NOT have to go to the consulate. An apostille is a special certification in which the "Office of the Secretary of State" of an individual state, such as Missouri, affirms that the notary who witnessed the signature on the document in question is in fact known to their office. The term apostille differentiates it from something called an "International Standard Certificate." The USA and South Korea are both signatories of "The Hague Convention" treaty which eliminated the need for documents to get certification at the state level and then go to the US Department of State in Washington plus the Embassy or Consulate.

Police letters need ONLY a simple notary stamp and then the Apostille (a separate sheet of paper which is attached with a staple) from the Secretary of State (in the state capital, not in Washington). At that point, they are ready to send to Korea.

Source: Myself: I did this very job (apostilles and other legal documentation requests) for several years in Texas (and dealt with Secretaries of State of all US States plus several Canadian provinces) - believe me, I'm a professional and know what I'm talking about.

If you want, PM me and I'll give you contact information for the company where I worked in Texas. They can do the legwork for you (so you don't have to) and will take care of all the details (other than obtaining the actual police letter and notary stamp, which you'll need to do on your own).[/i]
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I-am-me



Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Hermit Kingdom

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just got my CBC online from the Texas Dept of law enforcement. It cost me 3$. Not much info on it except bold lettering which says NO MATCHING RECORD FOUND for my name and birth date. Can I take this to the embassy to do an affadavit and to immigration? I keep hearing 2 different stories that immigration will accept it and that they won't. Has anybody done this particular CBC? Question
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JerBear



Joined: 27 Mar 2008
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I-am-me wrote:
I just got my CBC online from the Texas Dept of law enforcement. It cost me 3$. Not much info on it except bold lettering which says NO MATCHING RECORD FOUND for my name and birth date. Can I take this to the embassy to do an affadavit and to immigration? I keep hearing 2 different stories that immigration will accept it and that they won't. Has anybody done this particular CBC? Question


I have heard that you can take it first to the US Embassy to get it apostilled and then you can use it at the immigration office. However, I have heard no independent confirmation as to whether or not this process works.

Where in Texas are you from? If you're from Harris County, the process couldn't be easier. If you're from somewhere else, try contacting the police department at home by phone. They may be able to just draw one up for you or you may need to fax or mail a request and a money order. Once the notarized cbc is complete, it then only needs to go to the office of the Secretary of State of Texas for the apostille. If you need a quick and easy contact to do the apostille legwork for you (once you already have the notarized cbc), send me a PM. I have a friend in Austin who does this sort of thing for a living. It's very easy.
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allarise



Joined: 06 Apr 2008
Location: Texas

PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JerBear wrote:


I have heard that you can take it first to the US Embassy to get it apostilled and then you can use it at the immigration office. However, I have heard no independent confirmation as to whether or not this process works.

Where in Texas are you from? If you're from Harris County, the process couldn't be easier. If you're from somewhere else, try contacting the police department at home by phone. They may be able to just draw one up for you or you may need to fax or mail a request and a money order. Once the notarized cbc is complete, it then only needs to go to the office of the Secretary of State of Texas for the apostille. If you need a quick and easy contact to do the apostille legwork for you (once you already have the notarized cbc), send me a PM. I have a friend in Austin who does this sort of thing for a living. It's very easy.


Hi. I believe I'm the same boat as I-Am-Me. I have the CBC printout, I'm going to go downtown to the police dept. (I am in Corpus) where they should have it notarized for a fee, correct? My next step is to mail the notarized CBC and an affadavit to the SOS in Austin?

I haven't been a member of Daves long enough to have PM priviledges, can you PM me back with whatever info you may have?
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hagwonnewbie



Joined: 09 Feb 2007
Location: Asia

PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm from MO. does that mean I have to go to Jeff City or does a local one suffice? I heard that you don't have to have an apostille now, but have to send it in to a Korean consulate.


Missouri is like the easiest state to get the background check from.

Look up Missouri highway patrol office on the internet. Get the phone number. Call them. Ask about getting a list of "runners". They are people who can go to the Highway patrol office and the Sec of States office for you and get everything done. CBC, notarized, apostilled, delivered to an address in Missouri less then a week from when you call for like 30 bucks total. That includes the runner's fee.
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driftingfocus



Joined: 08 Feb 2007
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: USA criminal record check Reply with quote

sargx wrote:
All I did for my GEPIK contract (I just started this month) was I went to my local police station (in a small town) and asked for a criminal record check. They sent a letter from the chief of police that was signed and stamped saying he checked through the national and local databases and found nothing about me.


That worked fine. I'm not sure if this will work for the 2008 visa rules, but fine for GEPIK.


How long did it take?
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