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eirrehs



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:19 pm    Post subject: best university in canada? Reply with quote

hey a student wants to know what the best university in canada is. what do you think? he likes history

thanx
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's no one top university. This might help, taken from Wikipedia.

Best overall

In its 2006 survey, Maclean�s, a leading Canadian news magazine, rates the University of Alberta the best overall by National Reputational Ranking.[28][29] The top five in this category were:[30]

1. University of Alberta
2. University of Waterloo
3. McGill University
4. University of British Columbia
5. University of Toronto

[edit] Top 5

Webometrics Ranking of World Universities in 2007 rates the top 5 Canadian universities (world rankings in brackets):[31]

1. University of Toronto (23)
2. University of British Columbia (36)
3. University of Alberta (49)
4. Simon Fraser University (62)
5. Universit� de Montr�al (7Cool

Newsweek (International Edition) in 2006 rates the top 5 Canadian universities (world rankings in brackets):[32]

1. University of Toronto (1Cool
2. University of British Columbia (31)
3. McGill University (42)
4. University of Alberta (55)
5. University of Waterloo (84)

The Times Higher Education Supplement in 2006 rates the top 5 Canadian universities (world rankings in brackets):[33]

1. McGill University (21)
2. University of Toronto (27)
3. University of British Columbia (50)
4. University of Alberta (133)
5. McMaster University (155)

Research Infosource in 2006 ranks the top 5 Canadian universities by research criteria:[34]

1. University of Toronto
2. Universit� de Montr�al
3. McGill University
4. University of Alberta
5. University of British Columbia
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K-in-C



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: Small Town (Great Programs) Reply with quote

http://www.trentu.ca/history/
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Small Town (Great Programs) Reply with quote

K-in-C wrote:
http://www.trentu.ca/history/


I've never heard of it, but they seem to have the right idea about small-group learning. That's something all those rankings don't take into account: you'll have a much better experience in a class of 20 than a class of 2000.
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IncognitoHFX



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Racetraitor, why isn't Saint Francis Xavier on that list? From what I remember back when I was checking out universities, it was ranked the #1 undergraduate university in the country. Especially in liberal arts. I'd recommend that school to everyone, as well as Dalhousie in Halifax.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first few years at Acadia University it was ranked number one undergraduate in Canada by MacLeans. Too bad the place has gone to hell in a handbasket since then.
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IncognitoHFX



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Underwaterbob wrote:
My first few years at Acadia University it was ranked number one undergraduate in Canada by MacLeans. Too bad the place has gone to hell in a handbasket since then.


Ugh. If I went to Acadia for my BA I'd be almost $60,000 in debt. You have to shell out $2000 a year to rent a laptop, am I correct? There is no way around it and you can't keep the laptop. I wouldn't recommend Acadia on that alone, spare any of the academic aspects of it.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
Underwaterbob wrote:
My first few years at Acadia University it was ranked number one undergraduate in Canada by MacLeans. Too bad the place has gone to hell in a handbasket since then.


Ugh. If I went to Acadia for my BA I'd be almost $60,000 in debt. You have to shell out $2000 a year to rent a laptop, am I correct? There is no way around it and you can't keep the laptop. I wouldn't recommend Acadia on that alone, spare any of the academic aspects of it.


I started there before the laptop fiasco. It's part of what's driven the school into the ground. Acadia is more-less owned by Marriot, Irving and IBM now.
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biggpoppa



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lists like this are really irrelevant...it depends on what you are going to study...
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RACETRAITOR



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IncognitoHFX wrote:
Racetraitor, why isn't Saint Francis Xavier on that list? From what I remember back when I was checking out universities, it was ranked the #1 undergraduate university in the country. Especially in liberal arts. I'd recommend that school to everyone, as well as Dalhousie in Halifax.


Beats me, I didn't make the list. These lists always have a huge amount of controversy in how they are chosen. A lot of the top universities have been boycotting the Maclean's rankings.
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Lekker



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Harvard.
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mnhnhyouh



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before accepting a list like this, you should ask yourself what you want from a university.

Are you there for a postgraduate course that has mostly research content? Then pick a good supervisor and go to their university.

Want a good undergraduate program? Look for class size information, and number of tutorials, etc. Look at job placement after graduation statistics.

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crazy_arcade



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think universities in Canada are quite a bit more standardized than in the States.

Anyways, different universities have their own strengths (and their ranking has nothing to with inflating grades....ahem....ivy league.)

Some schools utilize more seminar/socratic learning in the liberal arts (Simon Fraser) and these schools are considered harder.

Simon Fraser is known for being strong in undergraduate studies and has been ranked number 1 many times (for an undergrad school).

UBC and Toronto are both very well known for their extensive graduate programs.

Carlton University in Ottawa is especially noted as having a strong history department.

McGill is known for elitist b.s.

etc.

Every school has it's strong and weak points. Rankings are abritrary and meaningless. Harvard is good not because it's a good school...but because people think it's a good school. Pure crap.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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From what I remember back when I was checking out universities, it was ranked the #1 undergraduate university in the country.


Maclean's separated the schools into:


Medical/Doctoral (McGill, UBC/Queen's, U of T, U of A)

Comprehensive (Victoria, Simon Fraser)

Primarily Undergraduate (Acadia, Mount Allison, St. FX)

From what I hear, almost all the big names (UofT, UBC, UofA, Manitoba, er, dunno) are opting out of the Maclean's survey this year except McGill because the magazine's ranking system makes them No.1. Ha.

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For the November 2006 University Rankings issue, 22 Canadian universities refused to provide information directly to Maclean's. To rank those universities, the magazine relied on data it collects itself, as well as data drawn from third party sources such as Statistics Canada. Among the universities that refused to provide information directly to Maclean's in the fall of 2006 were the University of British Columbia, the University of Toronto, Dalhousie University, McMaster University, the University of New Brunswick, the University of Manitoba, the Universit� du Qu�bec network, Simon Fraser University, the University of Alberta, the University of Calgary, the University of Lethbridge, Ryerson University, the Universit� de Montr�al, the University of Ottawa, York University, Concordia University, the University of Western Ontario, Lakehead University, Queen's University, Carleton University, and the the University of Windsor, as a means of voicing their displeasure with the methodology used to determine the Maclean's ranking.


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schwa



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm going to put in a word for my alma mater, UVic.

Its got a solid reputation among Canadian schools, attracts some top faculty, & from the first year of undergrad you find yourself studying in small classes with noted authorities in their fields.

Attractive campus & a comfortable size, & Victoria's a pretty nice city too.

Check out these evaluations: http://uvic.ca/about/rankings.html
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