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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: |
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South Korean cosmetics company to halt ad campaign with Nazi references
The Associated Press
Published: April 16, 2008
SEOUL, South Korea: A South Korean cosmetics company said Wednesday it will halt an ad campaign with Nazi references following complaints from a leading anti-Semitism watchdog group and the Israeli Embassy in Seoul.
The Coreana Cosmetics Co. decided Tuesday to withdraw the television ad for a skin lotion to prevent further controversy, company spokesman Kim Yoon-ho said.
The ad shows a young woman in a military-style trench coat holding a soldier's cap that appears to have the swastika-gripping eagle Nazi insignia. The version shown in previews contained the slogan: "Even Hitler didn't have the East and West."
Korad, the Seoul-based agency that produced the ad, said it believed a Nazi soldier and Hitler symbolized "revolution" in keeping with the lotion's "revolutionary" moisturizing and calming effects. It said the reference to the East and West emphasized the product's dual functions.
The cosmetics firm changed the slogan before the ad's actual airing in February to "No one has ever had the East and West." Kim said the revision was designed to prevent controversy.
The Los Angeles-based Simon Wiesenthal Center and the Israeli Embassy sent letters of protest to Coreana calling for the ad's withdrawal, Kim said. Korad said it apologized to them on behalf of Coreana.
Last year, a South Korean publisher agreed to rewrite a best-selling children's book on U.S. history after the Wiesenthal Center criticized it for containing messages that echoed Nazi propaganda. The center has previously protested uses of Nazi themes in Korean bars and nightclubs. |
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aerosmithfly
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:09 am Post subject: |
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dude, let me tell you something. i'm an american jew and I can assure you, jews are more racist and fascist than koreans and nazis put together |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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That's nice. Nazi imagery isn't just offensive to Jews, you know. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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WIESENTHAL CENTER GRATIFIED THAT COSMETICS COMPANY DROPS CONTROVERSIAL �NAZI� AD
The Simon Wiesenthal Center today responded to reports saying that Korean cosmetics company Coreana has dropped, after protests from the Center and the Israeli Embassy, a controversial TV ad that depicts a model in Nazi-like military garb. The ad�s tagline read, �Even Hitler didn�t have the East and West�
"We are gratified that Coreana has decided to do the right thing,� said Rabbi Abraham Cooper, associate dean of the Wiesenthal Center. �We remain very concerned that too many young Koreans lack important basic information about Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Holocaust,� he added.
The Center last year protested a similar incident with anti-Semitic imagery in a popular Korean comic book series. In both the comic book and cosmetics ad controversies, Rabbi Cooper also offered to work with Korean partners to educate the Koreans about the Nazi era. |
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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:52 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I saw it last night, so we'll see if they actually pulled the entire campaign. THe SWC release doesn't go into details. Maybe it's just talking about dropping the "Hitler." I'll have to tune in today to see if the commercial is still on. Regardless, it isn't a very "gratifying" response for a lot of us. Doesn't seem like anyone actually gets it.  |
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Pyongshin Sangja

Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!
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Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 11:52 pm Post subject: |
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Victory? |
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Big_Bird

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
What about the Nazis? Won't they find Mongoloids using their imagery in this manner inappropriate? |
Yes, the irony of it all.  |
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Temporary
Joined: 13 Jan 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 12:56 am Post subject: |
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Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
That's nice. Nazi imagery isn't just offensive to Jews, you know. |
No shit.. To many people think thats its only the jews that suffered under the nazi regime.. Many other nationalities were harmed by them ofcourse WESTERN education would never tell you otherwise... |
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hogwonguy1979

Joined: 22 Dec 2003 Location: the racoon den
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endo

Joined: 14 Mar 2004 Location: Seoul...my home
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: |
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I agree that the adds were just wrong and stupid.
But if you read this thread, it's kind of like we all want to embarass Korea. I might be way off, but that the feeling I initially had, and a feeling I felt I read in many of the posts here.
I'm sure many of us like a lot of things about Korea, however, sometimes we appear to get glee from seeing some Koreans backwardness and ignorance called out on the international stage.
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007 Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:41 am Post subject: |
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While at times I like seeing Korean morons fall flat like a schlmiel, this wasn't the case with Coreana-bad taste, offensive, whatever euphemism you like. |
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Pyongshin Sangja

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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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No, I just really didn't understand why I had to listen to Hitler and watch this airhead model prance around in a Nazi uniform while I was watching Project Runway (the best show on TV). It was offensive here and it would have been offensive anywhere else, too. There wasn't anything funny about the Nazis. |
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Kwangjuchicken

Joined: 01 Sep 2003 Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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And if Hitler had won the war just think of the great future all of those blond haired blue eyed Japanese would have had. Say what you want about Koreans, but how stupid could the Japanese have been to fight for a man who, if he had won the war, would have killed them off.
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komerican

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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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Brian Deutsh's article was a self-serving piece of tripe. "Magic Negro" anyone?
Rabbi cooper had it right when he said that the ads were a product of ignorance. As I wrote before the holocaust is an experience that is alien to most Koreans. europeans have had pogroms against Jews for centuries. Most Koreans have no concept of anti-Semitism. That doesn't make Koreans stupid or evil as Deutsh hysterically implies in his petty article. Koreans just need more education on this topic.
But people like Deutsh are not satisfied with this explanation. What they want to do is leverage these incidents to empower themselves. He writes:
"For South Koreans to ignore the horrific crimes against humanity committed by the Nazis is to willingly set obstacles on their road to maturity in the global community. A society that approves of Nazi Germany, for whatever reason, is not one that can seriously examine issues of, say, comfort women or visits to Yasukuni Shrine. Nor can it be considered fully-functioning members of a global society."
And who decides and judges when a people are mature or "fully-functioning"? Brian Deutsh and his ilk, that who. Wow, thank god Korea has people like Deutsh to tell us that Nazi Germany was wrong (sarcasm). |
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stevieg4ever

Joined: 11 Feb 2006 Location: London, England
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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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Do us all a favour will you. Time and time again you come on this forum spouting nothing but rubbish regarding your fellow countrymen and their unparalleled levels of ignorance.
Anybody that uses Nazi iconography knows what these symbols mean and the connotations that follow with it. If Nazis are so alien to Korean people then how comes they were used in the first place? And also this isn't the first time that we have seen resonances of Nazi iconography and imagery in Korea either, as Smee has repeatedly said.
It's a totally redundant and stupid argument you have put forward regarding experiences. Most experiences are alien to most people on this planet, irrespective of where they from. This is the information age we are living in and we can educate ourselves relatively easier than the last generation. There is nothing you can say that mitigates the type of ignorance and insensitivity shown by Korea on a repeated basis regarding this subject.
What makes me laugh is that you can't say boo to kimchi or some other stupid thing like that without Koreans crying a river. The double standards are laughable.
komerican wrote: |
Brian Deutsh's article was a self-serving piece of tripe. "Magic Negro" anyone?
Rabbi cooper had it right when he said that the ads were a product of ignorance. As I wrote before the holocaust is an experience that is alien to most Koreans. europeans have had pogroms against Jews for centuries. Most Koreans have no concept of anti-Semitism. That doesn't make Koreans stupid or evil as Deutsh hysterically implies in his petty article. Koreans just need more education on this topic.
But people like Deutsh are not satisfied with this explanation. What they want to do is leverage these incidents to empower themselves. He writes:
"For South Koreans to ignore the horrific crimes against humanity committed by the Nazis is to willingly set obstacles on their road to maturity in the global community. A society that approves of Nazi Germany, for whatever reason, is not one that can seriously examine issues of, say, comfort women or visits to Yasukuni Shrine. Nor can it be considered fully-functioning members of a global society."
And who decides and judges when a people are mature or "fully-functioning"? Brian Deutsh and his ilk, that who. Wow, thank god Korea has people like Deutsh to tell us that Nazi Germany was wrong (sarcasm). |
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